Talk Porty ~ Portobello

rmolehusband

Alison Connelly was quoted in the Evening News as saying... "Our view that it is common good land is supported by the senior counsel legal opinion that we obtained back in 2006. We are still confident that Portobello Park is common good land and we cannot see any merit in creating yet further delay ...

rmolehusband

...given the evidence that is currently in the public domain, the Council may well be regretting accepting the CG status of the land, whatever their reasons may have been at the time. 8) In retrospect, they may now take the view that challenging the CG status would have been a better bet that fight...

rmolehusband

Seriously, simple question if you can resist temptation to dodge it, what else could they have done? Go to Court? Your ability to dodge questions is staggering. Nobody doubts they went to court, do they? You said... If the Council or the lawyers acting on their behalf had really checked things out ...

rmolehusband

Which is fine, but I don't understand how he could agree it was CG at the beginning and then say it might not be now. You really do have a problem with people changing their minds, don't you? Some people, in particular curious and open minded people, or those not plagued by confirmation bias to the...

rmolehusband

Let's not forget the who is solely to blame for the fact that construction of our new school is not currently under way - PPAG and their supporters. It is contemptible, though predictable, that they, and you Betty, are now suggesting that it is all the council's fault and that heads should roll. An...

rmolehusband

There's a wonderfully ironic comment from one Liz McMahon over on the SPP facebook page: Begining to think the council will use all our parks for anything they want It kinds of gets to the root of the issue. Building the school on Portobello park is what we want. We want the council to build the sch...

rmolehusband

If found not Common Good Land, PPAG's case has no foundation in Law. Could CEC sue for frivolous litigation without substance and claim for legal costs incured? No, the council's legal advice was that the CG status didn't matter and so there was no point in going to court over it's status - it was ...

rmolehusband

After long and diligent consideration here is my Plan B. It's a sustainable underground formation featuring landscaped gardens, a snorkel to provide ventilation to the underground science labs and a wind turbine to generate power.

rmolehusband

I went to last Friday's meeting on the town hall. Myself and some 300 other interested folk sat around with maps and looked at all of the identified alternative sites. We considered some fairly 'out there' ways of achieving a school on these sites - though to be fair nothing as crazy as commander's ...

rmolehusband

building on the park will violate anyone's human rights. Neither will not building on it. That's rather unfairly out of context. You can make someone say pretty much anything you want with selective quoting... we don't need a Plan B because we're going to get a school on the site we want I'm happy ...

rmolehusband

But did the manufacturer of that toy have some kind of clause built in when it was sold declaring that it wasn't to be changed? If not, then he absolutely was a spoiled little brat, but if so, then the other kids should really accept it and get a different toy. No, it turned out there was no such c...

rmolehusband

Those of us of a more cynical nature, believed that using the name "Portobello Park" instead of, and not as well as "the Golfie", meant that many people in the area did not engage in the "democratic consultation" because they thought it was somewhere else. I understand that, normally when these typ...

rmolehusband

Here's another child related analogy for you. Some kids have a toy. It belongs to all of them, but sits in the corner of the shed, generally ignored and rarely played with, until one of the kids has a bright idea, digs it out, and starts changing it into a new toy. Lots of the kids love this new toy...

rmolehusband

This whole 'debate' is reminding me of an incident I had with my daughter once. She wanted a half pound box of chocolates in Scotmid and I told her she could have a finger of Fudge instead. So what you're saying is our children should be forced accept a smaller, inferior and ultimately far less des...

rmolehusband

This whole 'debate' is reminding me of an incident I had with my daughter once. She wanted a half pound box of chocolates in Scotmid and I told her she could have a finger of Fudge instead. So what you're saying is our children should be forced accept a smaller, inferior and ultimately far less des...

rmolehusband

I believe most people could live with temporary structures going up in the park if a decant was necessary. Never mind the decant, most people could live with building the new school on park. In fact, more than just living with it, most people actively support the idea. The point is that if it is il...

rmolehusband

portygeoff wrote:...decamp during this to Porty Park where temporary building would be built.

If it is illegal to appropriate the park for a new school then it must also be illegal to appropriate it for a decant school. The law makes no reference to how long an appropriation may last.

rmolehusband

Hi there, my husband and I are interested in buying a property in West Brighton Crescent (right next to Rosefield Park) The kids are fine, it's the neighbours I'd be worried about if I were you. You'll be right in the shadow of Barad-dûr, you'll get into trouble if you try to change so much as a li...

rmolehusband

Epykat wrote:Why not go the whole derogatory hog and call me 'Scott'?

Is it now considered derogatory to refer to someone by their surname?

if anybody is to be unforgiven by anybody else for spouting shite it will be you.

Time will tell on that one.

rmolehusband

Come on Commander, don't get in a flap and stall any longer, what land do you have in mind. This has been a sorry tail, a long haul and a real drag, and we can't wing it with our childrens' education any longer no matter what the spoilers say. Despite its roll, the current school is a dive, not enou...

rmolehusband

the fact that the Council are in the wrong At worst, the council were wrong in their belief that current legislation would permit them to build a new school on the park. I don't blame them for this, opinion is clearly divided on this and the council's view was in line with the majority of experts. ...

rmolehusband

The Council didn't have the right to try and put the new school there. Well, unless the council has a trick up its sleeve, it is indeed back to the drawing board. However, lets keep the legal decison in context. The council exists to do what the residents of Edinburgh want. In the absence of unanim...

rmolehusband

Franck wrote:Well, who won?

The children of Portobello have lost.

rmolehusband

I'd be interested in your pathway of thought that got from me stating a fact that some people have lived here longer than others to me becoming xenophobic? That's not what you said at all, and although your phrase 'longstanding locals' of course implies that some people have lived here longer than ...

rmolehusband

This reference to the building on Porty Links, something that happened over 150 years ago, seems relevant today... The ground was, however, largely used by the boys and girls of the town for games of all kinds, cricket. and even golf being played night after night. The building of Elcho Terrace some...

rmolehusband

The 'Park' thing has been discussed before but in case you missed it........to longstanding locals the space is the 'golfie' not 'Portobello Park'. And we all know that it's only the opinion of 'longstanding locals' that matter in our community, eh? Give it a rest with the xenophobia, will you? The...

rmolehusband

Not denying you know what the local park is actually called. But actually it's only been called that since the school thing happened. Lots of places have local names, I occasionally drink in a pub still known by the name of a licence holder who died in the 1920s. A lot of Porty parents will recogni...

rmolehusband

Pal of Porty wrote:
Betty Windsor wrote:..............given the level of hysteria at the meeting....................
Were we at the same meeting?

Were you actually at the meeting Betty?

rmolehusband

The irony is there is no division in the community in this matter. In fact, as demonstrated last night, the community is unusually united on this one. Reminds me of Blackadder... BLACKADDER: I was under the impression that it was common maritime practice for a ship to have a crew. CAPTAIN RUM: Opini...

rmolehusband

imho PPAG really do prioritise green space over the education of 1400 children I disagree. The significant majority of PPAG are NIMBYs, pure and simple. They do not want the school on 'their' park. Some others are simply serial opposers who view progress with suspicion. There may be a few, but I th...

rmolehusband

I have mixed feelings about last night's meeting. One one hand, as Sean has already mentioned, it was great to see such a large and passionate turn out in support of getting the school built now. Ros Sutherland was utterly drubbed and, while I didn't relish her humiliation, there was always a small ...

rmolehusband

So, if we get there and are told that we are not allowed in, what do we do?? Go to the pub for a drink. I think the important thing might be the show of support and being spared having to sit through the endless procedural posturing might be a blessing. A crowd outside, unable to attend, would cert...

rmolehusband

Pal of Porty wrote:John ' Neutrality' Stewart defender of the Inner Sanctum has given his counter a limit but it has not been made public.

There will be two doors, one those who support the building of the new school and one for the neutrals.

rmolehusband

I hope tonight doesn't get too nasty.Whatever you think of the stance taken by PPAG, they are entitled to air their views. Bear with me on this one, but tonight's meeting isn't really about the school as such. Any debate on the rights, wrongs or otherwise of building the school on the park are utte...

rmolehusband

Jean Douglas (PPAG Matriarch) suggested Rosefield Park for St John's, wonder if it was her? Is that the owner of the B&B on Duddingston Park? Their website doesn't make a single mention of Portobello Park despite it being right on their doorstep, funny that. If you want a walk they suggest Figgate ...

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