If Anyone is Interested

Gemini · Post by **Gemini** » 26 Oct 2005, 10:43

NATIONAL DEMONSTRATION
end the occupation of Iraq
bring the troops home now

don't attack Iran

defend civil liberties

freedom for Palestine
ASSEMBLE SAT 12 NOV MIDDAY
PARLIAMENT SQUARE
HIGH STREET > EDINBURGH
called by Edinburgh Stop the War Coalition and supported by MAB and SCND.

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 26 Oct 2005, 12:08

Only 4 Cause, do you need some more to bolster attendance?

How about adding anti-the english football team?

You people have no imagination.

xxxx · Post by **xxxx** » 26 Oct 2005, 13:04

Porty wrote:Only 4 Cause, do you need some more to bolster attendance?

How about adding anti-the english football team?

You people have no imagination.

Why do you suggest that they add a trivial, unconnected issue to four serious and connected ones?

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 26 Oct 2005, 13:26

As the National Demonstration lacks a title or specific purpose. I thought it must be the march of unconnected causes. A sort of "We want to have a demonstration, the last thing we need is a very poor turnout, we can't think of a single cause that shall bring people out in decent numbers. What should we do?"

My suggestion was not serious but it is a popular cause here in Scotland and may have helped bolster numbers. Having said that, if the demonstration is UK national, my suggestion is not such a good idea.

That's the last time I try to help, it just gets thrown back in my face.

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 26 Oct 2005, 13:31

Porty wrote:You people have no imagination.

They have plenty of conscience though. You'll probably find that those issues are linked, even if daring to link them makes "those people" terrorist sympathisers.

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 26 Oct 2005, 13:32

Dadaist wrote:
Porty wrote:You people have no imagination.
They have plenty of conscience though. You'll probably find that those issues are linked, even if daring to link them makes "those people" terrorist sympathisers.

W would have no problem finding a link. Bet he could drum up a connection with the England football team too, if it suited his purpose.

xxxx · Post by **xxxx** » 26 Oct 2005, 13:42

Porty wrote:
That's the last time I try to help,

promises,promises...

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 26 Oct 2005, 14:08

Porty wrote:
Dadaist wrote:
Porty wrote:You people have no imagination.
They have plenty of conscience though. You'll probably find that those issues are linked, even if daring to link them makes "those people" terrorist sympathisers.
W would have no problem finding a link. Bet he could drum up a connection with the England football team too, if it suited his purpose.

When one chastises a neighbour for their lack of imagination in front of an audience, it could be argued that a display of said trait would be expected to be forthcoming presently, lest the original insult be viewed as hollow or baseless. In this instance, you have showed about as much Imagination as a cup of Hot Chocolate.

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 26 Oct 2005, 14:45

xxxx wrote:
Porty wrote:
That's the last time I try to help,
promises,promises...

You can be so hurtful.

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 26 Oct 2005, 14:46

Dadaist wrote:
Porty wrote: When one chastises a neighbour for their lack of imagination in front of an audience, it could be argued that a display of said trait would be expected to be forthcoming presently, lest the original insult be viewed as hollow or baseless. In this instance, you have showed about as much Imagination as a cup of Hot Chocolate.

This "not-linking" business is getting out of hand. WTF are you going on about?

BTW Gemini knows she can count on me to keep her "cause" topics to the fore. We are comrades in arms.

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 26 Oct 2005, 14:58

If Mark Kermode repeatedly reviewed movies with one word as either "bad" or "good" then his criticism would have little value, even when they came from the perspective of somebody who loves film. If somebody who hated all movies did the same thing, it would be laughable.

xxxx · Post by **xxxx** » 26 Oct 2005, 15:02

Porty wrote:
You can be so hurtful.

I know, I hate myself for it sometimes

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 26 Oct 2005, 15:35

Dadaist wrote:If Mark Kermode repeatedly reviewed movies with one word as either "bad" or "good" then his criticism would have little value, even when they came from the perspective of somebody who loves film. If somebody who hated all movies did the same thing, it would be laughable.

Now i get it. You mean that people like dc and gemini critiscise Blair policies before they even fully understand them let alone give them a chance. It is of little value.

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 26 Oct 2005, 15:42

Porty wrote:
Dadaist wrote:If Mark Kermode repeatedly reviewed movies with one word as either "bad" or "good" then his criticism would have little value, even when they came from the perspective of somebody who loves film. If somebody who hated all movies did the same thing, it would be laughable.
Now i get it. You mean that people like dc and gemini critiscise Blair policies before they even fully understand them let alone give them a chance. It is of little value.

No, I meant that even Brian McCrow bothers to flesh out his arguments, even if the meat turns out to be Turkey-Twizzler grade.

Pal of Porty · Post by **Pal of Porty** » 26 Oct 2005, 18:22

Are you on a diet Dadaist? All these references to Hot Chocolate and Turkey Twizzlers!

Pal of Porty · Post by **Pal of Porty** » 26 Oct 2005, 18:23

Not to mention 'milk' on another thread!

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 26 Oct 2005, 19:03

Pal of Porty wrote:Not to mention 'milk' on another thread!

It was a cross-thread in-joke. They are all the rage on the internets.

General Tactifer · Post by **General Tactifer** » 26 Oct 2005, 21:31

Porty wrote:Only 4 Cause, do you need some more to bolster attendance?

How about adding anti-the english football team?

You people have no imagination.

How about commemorating the death of Neville Chamberlain (9 November 1940)

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 26 Oct 2005, 21:45

General Tactifer wrote:
Porty wrote:Only 4 Cause, do you need some more to bolster attendance?

How about adding anti-the english football team?

You people have no imagination.
How about commemorating the death of Neville Chamberlain (9 November 1940)

Far from being appeasers, I think you'll find that the political generation of that time who are closest to those you are unsubtly denigrating were busy dying in Spain in the cause of, er, democracy - while as per usual the great powers looked the other way in the cause of "non-intervention". Being opposed to the fundamentalist nutters who are in charge of the White House does not make one an appeaser.

I'll certainly commemorate the death of a half-decent argument from the pro-war crowd - although by that analogy your comment is positively ectopic.

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 26 Oct 2005, 23:28

Dadaist wrote:No, I meant that even Brian McCrow bothers to flesh out his arguments, even if the meat turns out to be Turkey-Twizzler grade.

Eh? I am not even having an argument, at least on this thread. If I were, I am astonished at your suggestion that I do not flesh out my arguments.

BTW I must congratulate Gem on the punchy thread title, it really stirs the blood and makes one want to march in demonstration. Its the "If Anyone is Interested" National Demonstration.

Do they really mean anyone?

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 26 Oct 2005, 23:48

Porty wrote:
Dadaist wrote:No, I meant that even Brian McCrow bothers to flesh out his arguments, even if the meat turns out to be Turkey-Twizzler grade.
Eh? I am not even having an argument, at least on this thread. If I were, I am astonished at your suggestion that I do not flesh out my arguments.

You didn't bother with this one. You just cut straight to the abuse.

BTW I must congratulate Gem on the punchy thread title, it really stirs the blood and makes one want to march in demonstration.

Your irony is getting rusty.

Its the "If Anyone is Interested" National Demonstration.

Do they really mean anyone?

Anyone with the backbone to be prepared to have insults slung at them about how they sympathise with terrorists and appease dictators.

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 27 Oct 2005, 09:21

Dadaist wrote:Anyone with the backbone to be prepared to have insults slung at them about how they sympathise with terrorists and appease dictators.

So not anyone?

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 27 Oct 2005, 09:47

Porty wrote:
Dadaist wrote:Anyone with the backbone to be prepared to have insults slung at them about how they sympathise with terrorists and appease dictators.
So not anyone?

As far as I am concerned, Jack Straw can turn up if he wants, as it means that the police spotters will have one more person to add to the number that they manipulate.

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 27 Oct 2005, 10:19

Dadaist wrote:As far as I am concerned, Jack Straw can turn up if he wants, as it means that the police spotters will have one more person to add to the number that they manipulate.

How's the home brew persecution complex coming along?

(Pssst: have you peeked on Pbay?)

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 27 Oct 2005, 10:56

Porty wrote:
Dadaist wrote:As far as I am concerned, Jack Straw can turn up if he wants, as it means that the police spotters will have one more person to add to the number that they manipulate.
How's the home brew persecution complex coming along?

(Pssst: have you peeked on Pbay?)

One does not necessarily suffer from a persecution complex (not that I am accusing you of accusing me of having one) in order to state the commonly held belief that demonstration numbers are a highly political estimate, and are most defintely prone to being massaged.