The Eagle Has Landed

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 16 Jan 2006, 14:40

Rathbone's mention of Ealing comedies has brought back memories of classic war movies, including this one.

Up till today I couldn't remember the name of the one with the English-speaking troops landing in the village - I didn't know that the Michael Caine one was a remake.

I also remember "Carve Her Name With Pride" and several others - I think the combination of these movies and direct family experiences of WW2 have made a lasting impression on me.

I also think the last 20 minutes of Star Wars is a complete rip-off of the last 20 minutes of Dambusters.

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 16 Jan 2006, 15:23

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Up till today I couldn't remember the name of the one with the English-speaking troops landing in the village - I didn't know that the Michael Caine one was a remake.
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...which it wasn't. The one I remember was actually called "Went The Day Well" - anyone remember it? One of the scenes where the villagers begin to expect that there's something wrong is when a child is given a bar of Viennese chocolate.

Pal of Porty · Post by **Pal of Porty** » 16 Jan 2006, 22:41

Dadaist wrote: I also remember "Carve Her Name With Pride" and several others - I think the combination of these movies and direct family experiences of WW2 have made a lasting impression on me.

Me too. This was a great film which is both sad and inspiring at the same time. Brill performance by Virginia McKenna.

As for your Star Wars comment - you will find that many films pay homage to formats/styles/plots that were successful in the past.

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 16 Jan 2006, 23:16

Sure PoP, but there's a difference between paying homage and simply copying 20 minutes of a film, exchanging :

1. bombers for x-wings
2. fighters for tie fighters
3. a dam for an exhaust port
4. "the guns - they've stopped - watch for enemy fighters" for "the guns - theyve stopped - watch for enemy fighters"
5. british pluck for "the force"
6. anti-aircraft guns for turbo lasers
7. the last surviving bomber with the hero on board getting through with his bouncing bomb for the last surviving x-wing with the hero on board getting through with his missiles

rathbone · Post by **rathbone** » 16 Jan 2006, 23:24

Try looking at the Bonus Material which comes with the Star Wars Trilogy (i.e. "Episodes 4,5&6) DVD Box Set.

George Lucas edited together footage from World War II films to compile a rough cut of the last 20 minutes of Star Wars and gave that to the special effects team to work from. There are some interesting direct comparisons, shot by shot.

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 16 Jan 2006, 23:28

rathbone wrote:Try looking at the Bonus Material which comes with the Star Wars Trilogy (i.e. "Episodes 4,5&6) DVD Box Set.

George Lucas edited together footage from World War II films to compile a rough cut of the last 20 minutes of Star Wars and gave that to the special effects team to work from. There are some interesting direct comparisons, shot by shot.

I'd love that box set. I knew about the ww2 reel stuff when he previewed it, but those extras sound fascinating.

foxy · Post by **foxy** » 16 Jan 2006, 23:31

Dadaist wrote:I'd love that box set

...should've asked the jolly guy with the big white beard

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 17 Jan 2006, 00:33

foxy wrote:
Dadaist wrote:I'd love that box set
...should've asked the jolly guy with the big white beard

Yeah but I wanted Battlefield 2 : Special Forces, and a bottle of whisky, more.

Pal of Porty · Post by **Pal of Porty** » 17 Jan 2006, 14:22

Dadaist wrote:Sure PoP, but there's a difference between paying homage and simply copying 20 minutes of a film......

I agree but just as with Star Wars there are 1000's of almost direct 'copies' of other films around. Empire ran an article along these lines years ago and I was left wondering if I would ever see an original film again!

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 17 Jan 2006, 14:42

Pal of Porty wrote:
Dadaist wrote:Sure PoP, but there's a difference between paying homage and simply copying 20 minutes of a film......
I agree but just as with Star Wars there are 1000's of almost direct 'copies' of other films around. Empire ran an article along these lines years ago and I was left wondering if I would ever see an original film again!

Sure, but they are probably bad movies are they not? Are there similar rip-offs as famous as Star Wars?

I thought it was exactly like Vettriano and the photographs - it doesn't mean they aren't good paintings, but there's just a tiny whiff of fraud in the air...

Pal of Porty · Post by **Pal of Porty** » 18 Jan 2006, 13:58

I cannot remember any films off hand but I will see if I can look out the old Empire articles.

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