The smoking ban

Scorpion · Post by **Scorpion** » 17 Feb 2006, 17:24

As most of you know the smoking ban comes into effect on 26 March 2006 which is not very far away. Now I'm not one for frequenting pubs very much (thats not to say that I don't like a drink). However, I was just wondering how those that do socialise in those places feel about how things will change? Also, does anyone know what preparations pubs have made for those that want to continue smoking and still want to go to the pub?

Mate of Marya · Post by **Mate of Marya** » 17 Feb 2006, 17:36

The Sheep's Heid banned smoking sometime ago. However, they do allow their customers to smoke outside in the Beer Garden. Fine in the Summer months, but a little chilly in the Winter.

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 17 Feb 2006, 17:43

Have you seen the new additions to Foresters and Ormelie? They have wall-mounted ashtrays fixed outside and they carry advertising. Hideous or what?#

Bob Jefferson · Post by **Bob Jefferson** » 17 Feb 2006, 17:57

I believe the smoking ban coincides with both Mothers Day and the first day of Spring - there must be an excuse for a POL night out in there somewhere?

Epykat · Post by **Epykat** » 17 Feb 2006, 19:18

Bob Jefferson wrote:I believe the smoking ban coincides with both Mothers Day and the first day of Spring - there must be an excuse for a POL night out in there somewhere?

Definitely!! I can't wait for the smoking ban. Looking forward to it more than Xmas

I think we should organise a night out especially to the Dalriada which has to be one of the worst pubs for smoke in the area. To go in there and actually enjoy it without having to sit in that horrible little no smoking room will be bliss. Bring it on

Pal of Porty · Post by **Pal of Porty** » 17 Feb 2006, 19:56

Bob Jefferson wrote:I believe the smoking ban coincides with both Mothers Day and the first day of Spring - there must be an excuse for a POL night out in there somewhere?

2 nights out - Smokers the day before to remember how it used to be. Non-smokers on the day itself to celebrate.

mr magnolia · Post by **mr magnolia** » 18 Feb 2006, 00:30

Bob Jefferson wrote:I believe the smoking ban coincides with both Mothers Day and the first day of Spring - there must be an excuse for a POL night out in there somewhere?

Give that man a cigar!

teddygirl · Post by **teddygirl** » 18 Feb 2006, 09:15

Porty wrote:Have you seen the new additions to Foresters and Ormelie? They have wall-mounted ashtrays fixed outside and they carry advertising. Hideous or what?#

I had been wondering if beer gardens were to be included in the no smoking ban or not as I do not frequent pups very often but am quite partial to an afternoon or early evening drink in the sunshine. Does this now mean that we will have to sit in the "fresh air" with all the smokers fighting for the outdoor tables and chairs. Or will there be a smoking and a no smoking area in the gardens ?

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 18 Feb 2006, 10:39

You surprise me, I had you down as a frequenter of pups.

teddygirl · Post by **teddygirl** » 18 Feb 2006, 11:03

Cheek!...................just because I know Epykat,doesn't mean I have all her bad habits you know

xxxx · Post by **xxxx** » 18 Feb 2006, 13:15

teddygirl wrote: Does this now mean that we will have to sit in the "fresh air" with all the smokers fighting for the outdoor tables and chairs. ?

Its terrible, these monsters should be made to stay indoors, windows nailed shut while they puff 8 billion a year into the exchequer during their shortened and diminished lives.

Bob Jefferson · Post by **Bob Jefferson** » 18 Feb 2006, 13:28

So you haven't given up yet then?

Robin! · Post by **Robin!** » 18 Feb 2006, 13:30

I'm looking forward to the ban!

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 18 Feb 2006, 13:35

xxxx wrote:
teddygirl wrote: Does this now mean that we will have to sit in the "fresh air" with all the smokers fighting for the outdoor tables and chairs. ?
Its terrible, these monsters should be made to stay indoors, windows nailed shut while they puff 8 billion a year into the exchequer during their shortened and diminished lives.

You said it, xxxx.

Sandra · Post by **Sandra** » 18 Feb 2006, 13:46

The Parliament's smoking room shut its doors yesterday and now all smokers have to congregate in the courtyard of QH - nice.

xxxx · Post by **xxxx** » 18 Feb 2006, 14:02

Bob Jefferson wrote:So you haven't given up yet then?

I have actually, smoking is a disgusting and unhealthy pastime.
So is persecuting and vilifying people while neglecting their heroic contribution to the commonwealth.

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 18 Feb 2006, 14:09

xxxx wrote:
Bob Jefferson wrote:So you haven't given up yet then?
I have actually, smoking is a disgusting and unhealthy pastime.
So is persecuting and vilifying people while neglecting their heroic contribution to the commonwealth.

Yeppers.

What are those old ciggies you don't see any more?

What were those ones that Bert smoked in Adrian Mole?

What were the ones with "Navy" in the title?

The only one I can remember is Capstan - is that right?

Were these unfiltered?

Just think of all the traditions that are dying out - those people with yellow fingers and that yellow quiff at the front.

Not to mention pipes.

Looks like the 21st century disturbed that Condor moment.

Mate of Marya · Post by **Mate of Marya** » 18 Feb 2006, 14:24

Were you thiking about Senior Service?

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 18 Feb 2006, 15:27

Mate of Marya wrote:Were you thiking about Senior Service?

Geertcha!

Spot on. If I had a disposable lung I'd smoke me some Senior Service. I love a product that puts itself out of business cos all the people who use it die off!

teddygirl · Post by **teddygirl** » 18 Feb 2006, 16:00

.............and don't forget the Players and Woodbine, other popular unfiltered ciggies.

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 18 Feb 2006, 16:05

teddygirl wrote:.............and don't forget the Players and Woodbine, other popular unfiltered ciggies.

Woodbine were the ones Bert smoked in Adrian Mole, I think.

Either because of the way it's shot (filters on the lenses) or the fags used (no filters!) the cigs smoked in the movie Blade Runner are really yellow - the smoke and the paper. You can't beat a bit of film noir in colour with plenty of steam and smoke.

What have we got for a bit of atmosphere now it's almost the teens of the century and smokes are out the window - Ben Affleck's cfc-free deodorant?

Pah. I want my actors not only to have guts, but to cough them up too. Cheroots are part of the plot in the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

Porty · Post by **Porty** » 18 Feb 2006, 16:08

teddygirl wrote:.............and don't forget the Players and Woodbine, other popular unfiltered ciggies.

The former was the brand that killed my dad.

teddygirl · Post by **teddygirl** » 18 Feb 2006, 16:16

Mr TG smoked some of these when I first met him, gradually got him on to tipped and he finally gave up altogether about 18 years ago.

arachnid · Post by **arachnid** » 18 Feb 2006, 16:50

My apologies and condolences to all you smokers, but I'm another one who will welcome the smoking ban. It'll be so nice to come home from a night out and not smell of " fag reek"!!! Hope the ban also comes into force soon in the rest of the country!

Epykat · Post by **Epykat** » 18 Feb 2006, 18:38

Teddygirl, I am ignoring your previous slight on my usually unblemished character

My Mum used to smoke Senior Service. The packets were actually quite artistic with the little ship surrounded by a laurel wreath, (maybe the wreath was significant?) I liked colouring the ship in - in between playing with the spent matches and ash. My Dad smoked himself to death on Benson and Hedges. My father in law on the other hand was a real man. He got through about 60 Players Plain a day and circulated the smoke around the room with an electric fan (it was possibly the only fresh air he ever got). If anybody's going to die of passive smoking Mr E and I must be really strong contenders (along with Porty by the sounds of it!). Even when I worked at Fettes there were only two out of a staff of about 15 who didn't smoke and we sat in that office all day surrounded by it. The guy I shared a desk with used to balance his ashtray on my typewriter

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bearcub · Post by **bearcub** » 18 Feb 2006, 19:50

My dad was always a Senior Service guy - well, he did spend 22 years in the Navy - and although he doesn't buy them anymore (don't think there're many shops that still sell them?), he still appreciates when we manage to find a shop that sells them and give them as a present.

I'm split on the smoking ban. I'm an "ex-smoker" (but not one of the "smoking is evil" ones), but still enjoy a smoke occasionally (prob once every 2-3 months) when I'm out drinking with other smokers....however, it's only then that I want to smoke, so I probably won't have any problems with the ban. It's probably the word 'ban' that gets my goat, I've never liked being told what to do - even if I know it's bad for me - and although I agree with the passive smoking lobby in some ways, it can almost feel sometimes that smokers are being picked out for vilification.....for doing something that is legal (and just happens to contribute billions to the Government's coffers)

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 18 Feb 2006, 20:05

You've got it right though, Bearcub. Just as with arguments over terrorism and other labels our society immediately feels fear from, smokers have been targeted by a government propaganda campaign - a very well funded one.

You can read, even on this thread - discriminatory language used by people who know that perceived right is on their side - in effect the argument was over before it started as far as they are concerned - all they have to do is repeatedly smear smokers and that's it.

That's not a debate - it's a US-style election campaign with all the mud coming from the smug middle classes who have inflicted their desire to have smoke-free restaurants on the working class.

Epykat · Post by **Epykat** » 18 Feb 2006, 22:18

It does worry me slightly that by banning smoking the Government will start taxing something that I do to make up the money

Maria · Post by **Maria** » 18 Feb 2006, 22:31

As someone who hasn't smoked since about 3.00 a.m. on Jan 1st 2006 (honest, Poppy!) I'm pleased that soon I won't be able to smoke in a pub even if I want to.
It should make giving up (again!

) that wee bit easier.

BTW I was bemused this week, while on holiday in the good old US of A, to catch a glimpse of a TV ad directed at smokers who need help to give up. And the name of the good Samaritans who will aid you? Philip Morris, of course!

Sandra · Post by **Sandra** » 19 Feb 2006, 00:21

Epykat wrote:If anybody's going to die of passive smoking Mr E and I must be really strong contenders (along with Porty by the sounds of it!).

When I worked at HWU two directors - who had rooms off the secretaries room smoked like chimneys - one a pipe and the other ciggies. Sometimes you couldn't see through the haze of smoke - this was in the 90s too.

cough cough

tom nimmo · Post by **tom nimmo** » 19 Feb 2006, 13:54

I am counting the days until non-smokers can enjoy the pubs. I intend going to The Plough on the 26th March for a quiet shandy or three without the addition of streaming eyes and clothes reeking of fag smoke. I hope Porty non-smokers will support our local pubs as they will no doubt struggle a bit at first while the smokers get used to the idea of not being allowed to poison themselves and everyone sitting in the same room as them.

Epykat · Post by **Epykat** » 19 Feb 2006, 15:00

tom nimmo wrote:I intend going to The Plough on the 26th March for a quiet shandy or three.

Think carefully if you've not done it before - and watch out for the wheelie bin

Bob Jefferson · Post by **Bob Jefferson** » 19 Feb 2006, 15:10

Yeah, but we've been in worse and I hear that a rather good local jazz trio play there occasionally.

foxy · Post by **foxy** » 19 Feb 2006, 15:27

Marya wrote:As someone who hasn't smoked since about 3.00 a.m. on Jan 1st 2006 (honest, Poppy!) I'm pleased that soon I won't be able to smoke in a pub even if I want to.
It should make giving up (again! ) that wee bit easier.

BTW I was bemused this week, while on holiday in the good old US of A, to catch a glimpse of a TV ad directed at smokers who need help to give up. And the name of the good Samaritans who will aid you? Philip Morris, of course!

Hey Marya...how was the land of the free...did you have a nice day

Dadaist · Post by **Dadaist** » 19 Feb 2006, 15:39

tom nimmo wrote:smokers get used to the idea of not being allowed to poison themselves

...in a pub.....with alcohol.....yes.......ironic.......

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