Socialist Work Ethic (The Real Story)
Socialist Work Ethic (The Real Story)
Having destroyed Dadaist in the recent Captive State thread and with Gemini a shadow of her former self. I thought for a bit of devilment that I would check out the SSP's voting performance at the new parliament. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that Colin Fox has voted in 80% of the debates that have taken place in the current parliament. I have to confess that I was a bit miffed that the SSP had exceeded my expectation.
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On further review it appears that the Colin Fox performance is, how can I put it? CRAP! Turns out that in terms of voting attendance the SSP are not up to standard. They failed to get a member in the Top 10 same goes for the Top 20,30,40,50,60,70,80 and 90. Colin managed to squeeze into the Top 100 at number 97 with an attendance of just 80%. That means with an average attendance of 84% overall for MSP's not a single SSP member managed to have even an average performance. The much 'revered' Sheridan managed about 63% helping pull his Party's average down to 71%. Rosie Kane who got of to a sparkling start by drawing on her hand just can't seem to get into work. Its the same old story, total masters at meaningless publicity stunts, total wasters at any other time. No wonder their 'electorate' love them.
I know the POL Brothers and Sisters like me to demonstrate evidence, here it is, you will have to scroll down for ages before you locate one. Power to the people, Im staying in bed.
MSP Name Party JUL ALL
1 Barrie, Scott Lab 0 95.5
2 Lamont, Johann Lab 0 95.5
3 Mulligan, Mrs Mary Lab 0 95.3
4 Murray, Dr Elaine Lab 0 95.3
5 Henry, Hugh Lab 0 95.1
6 Home Robertson, Mr John Lab 0 95.1
7 Macintosh, Mr Kenneth Lab 0 95.1
8 Whitefield, Karen Lab 0 95.1
9 Butler, Bill Lab 0 94.8
10 Chisholm, Malcolm Lab 0 94.4
11 Craigie, Cathie Lab 0 94.4
12 Ferguson, Patricia Lab 0 94.4
13 Martin, Paul Lab 0 94.4
14 Muldoon, Bristow Lab 0 94.4
15 Boyack, Sarah Lab 0 94.2
16 Wilson, Allan Lab 0 93.9
17 Smith, Iain LD 0 93.7
18 Brown, Robert LD 0 93.3
19 Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James Con 0 93.3
20 Macmillan, Maureen Lab 0 93
21 McNulty, Des Lab 0 93
22 Brankin, Rhona Lab 0 92.6
23 Lyon, George LD 0 92.6
24 McAveety, Mr Frank Lab 0 92.6
25 Baillie, Jackie Lab 0 92.4
26 McNeill, Pauline Lab 0 92.4
27 Hughes, Janis Lab 0 92.1
28 Maxwell, Mr Stewart SNP 0 92.1
29 Jamieson, Cathy Lab 0 91.9
30 MacAskill, Mr Kenny SNP 0 91.9
31 Eadie, Helen Lab 0 91.7
32 McFee, Mr Bruce SNP 0 91.7
33 Deacon, Susan Lab 0 91.5
34 Robson, Euan LD 0 91.5
35 Maclean, Kate Lab 0 91.2
36 Morrison, Mr Alasdair Lab 0 91.2
37 Munro, John Farquhar LD 0 91.2
38 Peattie, Cathy Lab 0 91.2
39 Gorrie, Donald LD 0 90.8
40 Baker, Richard Lab 0 90.6
41 Gibson, Rob SNP 0 90.6
42 Purvis, Jeremy LD 0 90.6
43 Curran, Ms Margaret Lab 0 90.3
44 McNeil, Mr Duncan Lab 0 90.3
45 Neil, Alex SNP 0 90.3
46 Canavan, Dennis Ind 0 89.7
47 Gillon, Karen Lab 0 89.4
48 Peacock, Peter Lab 0 89.4
49 Macdonald, Lewis Lab 0 89.2
50 McCabe, Mr Tom Lab 0 89.2
51 Radcliffe, Nora LD 0 89.2
52 Scott, Tavish LD 0 89.2
53 Fraser, Murdo Con 0 89
54 Watson, Mike Lab 0 89
55 Wallace, Mr Jim LD 0 88.8
56 Rumbles, Mike LD 0 88.3
57 Scanlon, Mary Con 0 88.1
58 Kerr, Mr Andy Lab 0 87.9
59 Scott, Eleanor Green 0 87.9
60 Pringle, Mike LD 0 87.4
61 Monteith, Mr Brian Con 0 87.2
62 Scott, John Con 0 86.3
63 Smith, Elaine Lab 0 86.3
64 Stevenson, Stewart SNP 0 86.1
65 McMahon, Michael Lab 0 85.8
66 Ballance, Chris Green 0 85.6
67 Grahame, Christine SNP 0 85.4
68 Stephen, Nicol LD 0 85.2
69 Jamieson, Margaret Lab 0 84.9
70 Mather, Jim SNP 0 84.9
71 May, Christine Lab 0 84.9
72 Smith, Margaret LD 0 84.7
73 Ballard, Mark Green 0 84.5
74 Jackson, Gordon Lab 0 84.3
75 Lochhead, Richard SNP 0 84.3
76 Oldfather, Irene Lab 0 84.3
77 Ewing, Fergus SNP 0 84
78 Marwick, Tricia SNP 0 83.8
79 Robison, Shona SNP 0 83.8
80 Stone, Mr Jamie LD 0 83.8
81 Johnstone, Alex Con 0 83.6
82 Milne, Mrs Nanette Con 0 83.4
83 Welsh, Mr Andrew SNP 0 83.4
84 Ingram, Mr Adam SNP 0 83.1
85 Ruskell, Mr Mark Green 0 82.9
86 Swinburne, John SSCUP 0 82.9
87 Brocklebank, Mr Ted Con 0 82.5
88 McGrigor, Mr Jamie Con 0 82.5
89 Baird, Shiona Green 0 82
90 Gallie, Phil Con 0 81.8
91 Ewing, Mrs Margaret SNP 0 81.6
92 Jackson, Dr Sylvia Lab 0 81.3
93 Matheson, Michael SNP 0 80.9
94 Mitchell, Margaret Con 0 80.4
95 Alexander, Ms Wendy Lab 0 80.2
96 Cunningham, Roseanna SNP 0 80
97 Fox, Colin SSP 0 80
98 Harvie, Patrick Green 0 79.8
99 Mundell, David Con 0 79.8
100 Byrne, Ms Rosemary SSP 0 78.4
101 Leckie, Carolyn SSP 0 78.4
102 McConnell, Mr Jack Lab 0 78.4
103 Morgan, Alasdair SNP 0 78.2
104 Davidson, Mr David Con 0 77.5
105 Sturgeon, Nicola SNP 0 77.5
106 Fergusson, Alex Con 0 77.3
107 Godman, Trish Lab 0 76.4
108 Aitken, Bill Con 0 76.2
109 Goldie, Miss Annabel Con 0 76.2
110 Adam, Brian SNP 0 75.7
111 Glen, Marlyn Lab 0 75.5
112 Tosh, Murray Con 0 72.1
113 Harper, Robin Green 0 71.7
114 White, Ms Sandra SNP 0 70.3
115 Fabiani, Linda SNP 0 67.4
116 Curran, Frances SSP 0 67.2
117 Hyslop, Fiona SNP 0 66.5
118 Swinney, Mr John SNP 0 66.3
119 Crawford, Bruce SNP 0 65.2
120 Turner, Dr Jean Ind 0 64
121 Sheridan, Tommy SSP 0 63.6
122 Livingstone, Marilyn Lab 0 60.9
123 Kane, Rosie SSP 0 58.7
124 Raffan, Mr Keith LD 0 58.2
125 Finnie, Ross LD 0 53
126 McLetchie, David Con 0 51.5
127 MacDonald, Margo Ind 0 36.6
I know the POL Brothers and Sisters like me to demonstrate evidence, here it is, you will have to scroll down for ages before you locate one. Power to the people, Im staying in bed.
MSP Name Party JUL ALL
1 Barrie, Scott Lab 0 95.5
2 Lamont, Johann Lab 0 95.5
3 Mulligan, Mrs Mary Lab 0 95.3
4 Murray, Dr Elaine Lab 0 95.3
5 Henry, Hugh Lab 0 95.1
6 Home Robertson, Mr John Lab 0 95.1
7 Macintosh, Mr Kenneth Lab 0 95.1
8 Whitefield, Karen Lab 0 95.1
9 Butler, Bill Lab 0 94.8
10 Chisholm, Malcolm Lab 0 94.4
11 Craigie, Cathie Lab 0 94.4
12 Ferguson, Patricia Lab 0 94.4
13 Martin, Paul Lab 0 94.4
14 Muldoon, Bristow Lab 0 94.4
15 Boyack, Sarah Lab 0 94.2
16 Wilson, Allan Lab 0 93.9
17 Smith, Iain LD 0 93.7
18 Brown, Robert LD 0 93.3
19 Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James Con 0 93.3
20 Macmillan, Maureen Lab 0 93
21 McNulty, Des Lab 0 93
22 Brankin, Rhona Lab 0 92.6
23 Lyon, George LD 0 92.6
24 McAveety, Mr Frank Lab 0 92.6
25 Baillie, Jackie Lab 0 92.4
26 McNeill, Pauline Lab 0 92.4
27 Hughes, Janis Lab 0 92.1
28 Maxwell, Mr Stewart SNP 0 92.1
29 Jamieson, Cathy Lab 0 91.9
30 MacAskill, Mr Kenny SNP 0 91.9
31 Eadie, Helen Lab 0 91.7
32 McFee, Mr Bruce SNP 0 91.7
33 Deacon, Susan Lab 0 91.5
34 Robson, Euan LD 0 91.5
35 Maclean, Kate Lab 0 91.2
36 Morrison, Mr Alasdair Lab 0 91.2
37 Munro, John Farquhar LD 0 91.2
38 Peattie, Cathy Lab 0 91.2
39 Gorrie, Donald LD 0 90.8
40 Baker, Richard Lab 0 90.6
41 Gibson, Rob SNP 0 90.6
42 Purvis, Jeremy LD 0 90.6
43 Curran, Ms Margaret Lab 0 90.3
44 McNeil, Mr Duncan Lab 0 90.3
45 Neil, Alex SNP 0 90.3
46 Canavan, Dennis Ind 0 89.7
47 Gillon, Karen Lab 0 89.4
48 Peacock, Peter Lab 0 89.4
49 Macdonald, Lewis Lab 0 89.2
50 McCabe, Mr Tom Lab 0 89.2
51 Radcliffe, Nora LD 0 89.2
52 Scott, Tavish LD 0 89.2
53 Fraser, Murdo Con 0 89
54 Watson, Mike Lab 0 89
55 Wallace, Mr Jim LD 0 88.8
56 Rumbles, Mike LD 0 88.3
57 Scanlon, Mary Con 0 88.1
58 Kerr, Mr Andy Lab 0 87.9
59 Scott, Eleanor Green 0 87.9
60 Pringle, Mike LD 0 87.4
61 Monteith, Mr Brian Con 0 87.2
62 Scott, John Con 0 86.3
63 Smith, Elaine Lab 0 86.3
64 Stevenson, Stewart SNP 0 86.1
65 McMahon, Michael Lab 0 85.8
66 Ballance, Chris Green 0 85.6
67 Grahame, Christine SNP 0 85.4
68 Stephen, Nicol LD 0 85.2
69 Jamieson, Margaret Lab 0 84.9
70 Mather, Jim SNP 0 84.9
71 May, Christine Lab 0 84.9
72 Smith, Margaret LD 0 84.7
73 Ballard, Mark Green 0 84.5
74 Jackson, Gordon Lab 0 84.3
75 Lochhead, Richard SNP 0 84.3
76 Oldfather, Irene Lab 0 84.3
77 Ewing, Fergus SNP 0 84
78 Marwick, Tricia SNP 0 83.8
79 Robison, Shona SNP 0 83.8
80 Stone, Mr Jamie LD 0 83.8
81 Johnstone, Alex Con 0 83.6
82 Milne, Mrs Nanette Con 0 83.4
83 Welsh, Mr Andrew SNP 0 83.4
84 Ingram, Mr Adam SNP 0 83.1
85 Ruskell, Mr Mark Green 0 82.9
86 Swinburne, John SSCUP 0 82.9
87 Brocklebank, Mr Ted Con 0 82.5
88 McGrigor, Mr Jamie Con 0 82.5
89 Baird, Shiona Green 0 82
90 Gallie, Phil Con 0 81.8
91 Ewing, Mrs Margaret SNP 0 81.6
92 Jackson, Dr Sylvia Lab 0 81.3
93 Matheson, Michael SNP 0 80.9
94 Mitchell, Margaret Con 0 80.4
95 Alexander, Ms Wendy Lab 0 80.2
96 Cunningham, Roseanna SNP 0 80
97 Fox, Colin SSP 0 80
98 Harvie, Patrick Green 0 79.8
99 Mundell, David Con 0 79.8
100 Byrne, Ms Rosemary SSP 0 78.4
101 Leckie, Carolyn SSP 0 78.4
102 McConnell, Mr Jack Lab 0 78.4
103 Morgan, Alasdair SNP 0 78.2
104 Davidson, Mr David Con 0 77.5
105 Sturgeon, Nicola SNP 0 77.5
106 Fergusson, Alex Con 0 77.3
107 Godman, Trish Lab 0 76.4
108 Aitken, Bill Con 0 76.2
109 Goldie, Miss Annabel Con 0 76.2
110 Adam, Brian SNP 0 75.7
111 Glen, Marlyn Lab 0 75.5
112 Tosh, Murray Con 0 72.1
113 Harper, Robin Green 0 71.7
114 White, Ms Sandra SNP 0 70.3
115 Fabiani, Linda SNP 0 67.4
116 Curran, Frances SSP 0 67.2
117 Hyslop, Fiona SNP 0 66.5
118 Swinney, Mr John SNP 0 66.3
119 Crawford, Bruce SNP 0 65.2
120 Turner, Dr Jean Ind 0 64
121 Sheridan, Tommy SSP 0 63.6
122 Livingstone, Marilyn Lab 0 60.9
123 Kane, Rosie SSP 0 58.7
124 Raffan, Mr Keith LD 0 58.2
125 Finnie, Ross LD 0 53
126 McLetchie, David Con 0 51.5
127 MacDonald, Margo Ind 0 36.6
Interesting.
102 McConnell, Mr Jack Lab 0 78.4
113 Harper, Robin Green 0 71.7
118 Swinney, Mr John SNP 0 66.3
126 McLetchie, David Con 0 51.5
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Does this mean that they did even more meaningless publicity stunts than we did? Or rather is it that an MSP is a very busy person?
Anyway, I think our MSPs should get a break cos nobody else seems to demonstrate outside New Labour's concentration camp at Dungavel and New Labour's nuclear holocaust base at Faslane. Also, we need time for prison, strikes and changing the batteries in our loudhailers.
That and it takes a while to get through all the big words in books like yer Captive State n that. Ken whit a mean?
102 McConnell, Mr Jack Lab 0 78.4
113 Harper, Robin Green 0 71.7
118 Swinney, Mr John SNP 0 66.3
126 McLetchie, David Con 0 51.5
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Does this mean that they did even more meaningless publicity stunts than we did? Or rather is it that an MSP is a very busy person?
Anyway, I think our MSPs should get a break cos nobody else seems to demonstrate outside New Labour's concentration camp at Dungavel and New Labour's nuclear holocaust base at Faslane. Also, we need time for prison, strikes and changing the batteries in our loudhailers.
That and it takes a while to get through all the big words in books like yer Captive State n that. Ken whit a mean?
But Maggie is out, out, out. It *was* worth it. Now we've got a New Lab..... no wait that's not right!Porty wrote:Ive been meaning to write to you about that for some time. You don't have to change the batteries, no-one is listening to a word you say.Dadaist wrote:. Also, we need time for........ changing the batteries in our loudhailers.
Nooooooooo!!! Somebody disinterr Maggie!
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[quote .... and with Gemini a shadow of her former self. parliament. I have to confess that I was a bit miffed that the SSP had exceeded my expectation.[/quote]
Porty, you did not exceed my expectations - copping out of yet another thread when it got a little too hot to handle - shame on you, for a while we thought you had a spine!
Unfortunately cannot give New Labour any praise because they have not exceeded anybody's expectations.
Porty, you did not exceed my expectations - copping out of yet another thread when it got a little too hot to handle - shame on you, for a while we thought you had a spine!
Unfortunately cannot give New Labour any praise because they have not exceeded anybody's expectations.
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Why not just say;Gemini wrote:Porty, you did not exceed my expectations - copping out of yet another thread when it got a little too hot to handle - shame on you, for a while we thought you had a spine!
"In view of the overwhelming evidence presented by Porty, I accede that the SSP MSP's do not turn up for work often enough.I really am very disappointed in my party representatives. It is difficult enough for us to get people elected and I wished the people who are there would respect the Parliament more and attend. Every party has slackers, liggers and ne'er do wells but for us to have not a single representative who has put in even an average performance really is shameful. Oh how I detest that they have provided such a smart ass like Porty with an opportunity to publicly humiliate the SSP."
You have my permission to cut and paste. Is it sunny in Denial today?
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No, but I hear it's nice over at Sour Grapes.Porty wrote: You have my permission to cut and paste. Is it sunny in Denial today?
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Thank you Dadaist ,old boy. Im very sorry to learn about the weather over there. It really is time that you moved out of Denial the weather is lovely over here. Why not call in for Gemini and I will meet you on the other side.Dadaist wrote:No, but I hear it's nice over at Sour Grapes.Porty wrote: You have my permission to cut and paste. Is it sunny in Denial today?
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Porty wrote:Why not just say;Gemini wrote:Porty, you did not exceed my expectations - copping out of yet another thread when it got a little too hot to handle - shame on you, for a while we thought you had a spine!
"In view of the overwhelming evidence presented by Porty, I accede that the SSP MSP's do not turn up for work often enough.I really am very disappointed in my party representatives. It is difficult enough for us to get people elected and I wished the people who are there would respect the Parliament more and attend. Every party has slackers, liggers and ne'er do wells but for us to have not a single representative who has put in even an average performance really is shameful. Oh how I detest that they have provided such a smart ass like Porty with an opportunity to publicly humiliate the SSP."
You have my permission to cut and paste. Is it sunny in Denial today?
Would not waste such a lovely sunny day on cutting and pasting this tripe.
BTW When areYOU kicking off your election campaign?
I am sure the SSP would supply you with their loudspeaker - if no batteries, they could always plug it into the mains, sorry again - what would be the point - empty vessels make most noise and all that.
You mentioned on another post about Protesters - how do you protest?
Strangely enough I had found you some articles on TBlair - unfortunately for whatever reason they were deleted from my posting of yesterday?
strange that your tripe was posted - or is it?
I've heard that you are very partial to Sour Grapes - this explains it!
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What is it with this paranoia thing? Nothing was deleted, though if we exercised any kind of quality control I might be tempted to delete this entire thread!Strangely enough I had found you some articles on TBlair - unfortunately for whatever reason they were deleted from my posting of yesterday?
strange that your tripe was posted - or is it?
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Tripe? You must be thinking of the Joe Findlay thread. I published FACTS, unedited, un-spun, just plain facts. I know they are difficult for you to accept. How do you explain the poor attendance?Gemini wrote:Would not waste such a lovely sunny day on cutting and pasting this tripe.!Porty wrote:Why not just say;Gemini wrote:Porty, you did not exceed my expectations - copping out of yet another thread when it got a little too hot to handle - shame on you, for a while we thought you had a spine!
"In view of the overwhelming evidence presented by Porty, I accede that the SSP MSP's do not turn up for work often enough.I really am very disappointed in my party representatives. It is difficult enough for us to get people elected and I wished the people who are there would respect the Parliament more and attend. Every party has slackers, liggers and ne'er do wells but for us to have not a single representative who has put in even an average performance really is shameful. Oh how I detest that they have provided such a smart ass like Porty with an opportunity to publicly humiliate the SSP."
You have my permission to cut and paste. Is it sunny in Denial today?
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How do you explain the poor Government?Porty wrote:Gemini wrote:Porty wrote:
Porty wrote:
How do you explain the poor attendance?
BTW - I am not a member of the Socialist Party - although listening to your splaff you might just convince me and perhaps some others that SSP are by far the better option, perhaps you should also be made aware that it was the Socialist Party who were the only people to listen and co-ordinate the way forward for the Capaign Against the Superstore at the outset. The CATS Group are made up of people from every Political Party.
Sadly, We have been made only too well aware of the hurdles that need to be overcome due to the processes put in place by Maggie's Mob and perpetuated by New Labour -TPRA an example amongst many.
Perhaps SSP MSP's should attend Parliament more often? Perhaps New Labour should listen to the electorate (as promised) more often?
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So no explanation then and only perhaps? Its sad that you seek to obfuscate the discussion with RED herrings like the CATS campaign. What is so difficult about admitting the SSP attendance at Parliament is shabby?Gemini wrote:Porty wrote:Gemini wrote: How do you explain the poor Government?
BTW - I am not a member of the Socialist Party - although listening to your splaff you might just convince me and perhaps some others that SSP are by far the better option, perhaps you should also be made aware that it was the Socialist Party who were the only people to listen and co-ordinate the way forward for the Capaign Against the Superstore at the outset. The CATS Group are made up of people from every Political Party.
Sadly, We have been made only too well aware of the hurdles that need to be overcome due to the processes put in place by Maggie's Mob and perpetuated by New Labour -TPRA an example amongst many.
Perhaps SSP MSP's should attend Parliament more often? Perhaps New Labour should listen to the electorate (as promised) more often?
SSP :Shirking Socialist Parasites.
Im sorry Gemini but its not my splaff. It is the record of voting attendance at the Scottish parliament. Its not my splaff, its not my view, its not my opinion, its not rhetoric, its not a superstore campaign, its not a beauty parade, its nothing to with the labour party. It is everything to do with the SSP attendance at parliament. You are not a member of the SSP why do you find it so difficult to accept stark reality?
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Porty wrote:Porty wrote:Gemini wrote:Porty wrote:
So no explanation then and only perhaps? Its sad that you seek to obfuscate the discussion with RED herrings like the CATS campaign. What is so difficult about admitting the SSP attendance at Parliament is shabby?
Gemini wrote:
I did not say it was, or was not shabby - they are not in control of Government as you like so often to point out, where was Frank McAveety -
Coming! what about the 3rd Minister's Golf outing on the anniversay of the D-Day landings? Again - we could spend forever in this tennis match.
My reference to CATS was merely pointing out that regardless of what Political party you favour, when it comes to the bottom line in dealings with the Law/Legislation - the balance of rights is stacked against people and communities in favour of Big Business's - do you defend this culture?
I also beleive that a country should have a sound economic basis - we are, as you keep reminding us , the fourth wealthiest nation in the world - but shame on us for disregarding the most vulnerable in our Society in favour of Profit.
If the only way you can find to defend New Labour's way of governing is by searching for screeds of information on how many meetings the SSP attended .... I rest my case.
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