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Re-aPier

Post by dccairns » 04 Nov 2005, 15:41

For those of you who were not at last weekend's "Imagine Portobello" event, here is information about a bid that is being put together for lottery funding to build a new pier for Portobello.

Re-aPier – The Forth's Gateway to the Sea

An idea for the Big Lottery Living Landmarks project

This proposal is put forward by the community of Portobello on the shore of the City of Edinburgh with partners still to be agreeed.

The proposal will address the need for the sustainable development of the Forth Estuary Coastal Region – the Firth of Forth; for a recasting of the relationship between the people of Edinburgh and their coastal environment; and for the regeneration of the sea side economy of Portobello.

.The proposal envisages the development of a substantial structure, (working title ‘Re-aPier') located in a high profile position off the shoreline of Portobello, Edinburgh's beach and linked to the shore by a walkway or pier. Together with the existing, on shore urban landscape, this structure will constitute a new ‘gateway' between Edinburgh and its coastal and marine environment. Re-aPier is intended as a catalyst for other developments that we hope will see the gateway linked to the city by a combination of an urban walkway and a ‘corridor' of artistic elements that delineate the 3k route from the city to the shore.

Re-aPier will house:

Scientific and development agencies concerned with the sustainable development (social, economic and environmental) of the Firth of Forth.
Educational activities enabling virtual access for the public to an interactive experience of the underwater world of the Firth of Forth, its history, geology, fauna and flora etc. with an emphasis on its interconnectedness with other marine environments and living systems.
An embarkation point for tours of the Firth and journeys to other coastal settlements and attractions.

Artistic elements, including gallery and performance spaces, celebrating the inter relationships of the marine, coastal and urban environments of the Firth of Forth, together with their diverse human populations.
Tourist services in the form of a visitor centre for the township of Portobello and its beach, incorporating a local museum and a range of provisions designed to encourage and support people to explore the coastal and marine environment of Scotland.

Informal recreational opportunities in the form of walkways and social spaces.

Catering and retailing provision.

Re-aPier will use cutting edge marine engineering and design technologies to create a sustainable ‘man made island' or ‘end of pier' presence (crannog?) in a site that is clearly visible and attractive from the main transport route from the city and along the coast of much of the Firth of Forth. 'The design will seek to have minimal impact on the environment in the use of resources both in terms of the construction phase and the ongoing operation of the facility. The structure will become a new signifier of the City of Edinburgh that can be seen by visitors who arrive or leave by air, train or sea.

We believe that the proposal will be welcomed by the township of Portobello because:

It offers increased economic potential through a redefining of the relationship between the township and the City of Edinburgh.
It creates opportunity for aspects of the proposal, such as hotel and catering services, to be developed as social enterprises to benefit local people.
It enables the community to have a significant influence on the impending development of the western end of the township and to link the developments by the means of an urban walkway.
It enables the community to develop its character as a focus for artistic and creative activity.
It will provide the community with an asset that it can steward for the wider benefit of the community.

We believe that the proposal will be welcomed by the City of Edinburgh because:

It contributes to the long term rebranding of Edinburgh as a Waterfront City
It enables Edinburgh to capitalise on its underused asset of a city beach
It contributes to the city's profile as a model for sustainable development and demonstrates the vitality of its communities.

We believe that the proposal will be welcomed by the wider Forth Estuary Coastal Region because:

It will serve as a regional hub for social, economic and environmental development.
It will increase visitor and resident awareness of the value of the coastal and marine environment
It will provide a model of excellence as a partnership approach to regional development.

We intend to put an application to the Big Lottery Fund in January 2006. If we are successful at this stage , we will receive up to £250,000.00 for public consultation, technical development and the development of an appropriate management structure. If the second stage of the development work is successful, we could access between £10M and £25M to make our ideas a reality.

Big Things on the Beach
www.bigthingsonthebeach.org.uk

For more information on the Big Lottery fund, please visit:

www.biglotteryfund.org.uk

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Re: Re-aPier

Post by Sandra » 04 Nov 2005, 17:06

dccairns wrote:For those of you who were not at last weekend's "Imagine Portobello" event, here is information about a bid that is being put together for lottery funding to build a new pier for Portobello.
that's great :D

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Post by Porty » 04 Nov 2005, 18:04

It sounds totally amazing and if this could be pulled off it could help Portobello start achieving a regeneration that fits the seaside resort of one of the world's great cities.

Is £10m to £25m the guesstimated budget or is that the initial stake to kickstart partnerships?

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Post by mr magnolia » 04 Nov 2005, 18:50

£10m - £25m will be for the professional fees.

8)
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Post by moi? » 04 Nov 2005, 22:34

‘Dis-aPier (signifying nothing)' is the working title for the most audacious concept to emerge from the recent grant-aided ‘Pretend Portobello' community workshop and après-vol au vent analysis . Employing state of the art holographic technology, this will truly be a virtual wonder of the modern world to enthral the 21st Century and beyond.

"If you can imagine a giant white elephant dressed in the emperor's new clothes that is initially projected to cost £10m but escalates to the price of a new Forth Estuary Secondary School before finally imploding due to the infinite weight of its own pretentiousness and disappearing up its own black hole then you are on the right track" explains one of the many diverse coastal humans involved in the vision.

"The whole thing actually costs about two hundred quid (plus several million pounds in consultation fees and feasibility studies) and we blow the rest on a big arty party for the usual suspects."

Almost certain to succeed then?

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Post by Porty » 04 Nov 2005, 23:22

I am definetly getting married to a number of supermodels next month (partners yet to be agreed). Any one fancy a p iss up?

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Post by Porty » 04 Nov 2005, 23:23

moi? wrote:‘Dis-aPier (signifying nothing)' is the working title for the most audacious concept to emerge from the recent grant-aided ‘Pretend Portobello' community workshop and après-vol au vent analysis . Employing state of the art holographic technology, this will truly be a virtual wonder of the modern world to enthral the 21st Century and beyond.

"If you can imagine a giant white elephant dressed in the emperor's new clothes that is initially projected to cost £10m but escalates to the price of a new Forth Estuary Secondary School before finally imploding due to the infinite weight of its own pretentiousness and disappearing up its own black hole then you are on the right track" explains one of the many diverse coastal humans involved in the vision.

"The whole thing actually costs about two hundred quid (plus several million pounds in consultation fees and feasibility studies) and we blow the rest on a big arty party for the usual suspects."

Almost certain to succeed then?

"explains one of the many diverse coastal humans involved in the vision. "


I thought i was going to wet myself.


My favourite ever post. Totally outstanding. :D

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Post by foxy » 05 Nov 2005, 00:17

moi? wrote:‘Dis-aPier (signifying nothing)' is the working title for the most audacious concept to emerge from the recent grant-aided ‘Pretend Portobello' community workshop and après-vol au vent analysis . Employing state of the art holographic technology, this will truly be a virtual wonder of the modern world to enthral the 21st Century and beyond.

"If you can imagine a giant white elephant dressed in the emperor's new clothes that is initially projected to cost £10m but escalates to the price of a new Forth Estuary Secondary School before finally imploding due to the infinite weight of its own pretentiousness and disappearing up its own black hole then you are on the right track" explains one of the many diverse coastal humans involved in the vision.

"The whole thing actually costs about two hundred quid (plus several million pounds in consultation fees and feasibility studies) and we blow the rest on a big arty party for the usual suspects."

Almost certain to succeed then?
The concept of a new pier is visionary and highly commendable, but the proposal itself has to be the most pretentious composition I have ever read. Pretentious moi? Nice one :lol:

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Post by wangi » 05 Nov 2005, 12:12

moi? wrote:‘Dis-aPier (signifying nothing)' is the working title for the most audacious concept to emerge from the recent grant-aided ‘Pretend Portobello' community workshop and après-vol au vent analysis .
Of course you could dispense with the mask and just say that yourself...

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Post by Poppy » 05 Nov 2005, 18:52

foxy wrote: the proposal itself has to be the most pretentious composition I have ever read.:
Iconic, though!! :twisted:

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Post by Porty » 06 Nov 2005, 13:46

Ok, so we have poked fun at the idea but the intent to do something to re-vitalise Portobello is nothing short of commendable.

There is of course very serious side to all of this, namely who is behind the project and what mandate do they have.?

"This proposal is put forward by the community of Portobello"

On what basis is this statement made?

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Post by foxy » 06 Nov 2005, 14:47

Porty wrote:Ok, so we have poked fun at the idea but the intent to do something to re-vitalise Portobello is nothing short of commendable.

There is of course very serious side to all of this, namely who is behind the project and what mandate do they have.?

"This proposal is put forward by the community of Portobello"

On what basis is this statement made?
Definitely didn't poke fun at the idea...just the Balamory of a proposal :shock:

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Post by Pal of Porty » 07 Nov 2005, 20:26

Porty wrote:I am definetly getting married to a number of supermodels next month (partners yet to be agreed). Any one fancy a p iss up?
Count me in for the Supermodel bit! 8)
Justice delayed is justice denied.

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Post by Gemini » 07 Nov 2005, 22:47

Pal of Porty wrote:
Porty wrote:I am definetly getting married to a number of supermodels next month (partners yet to be agreed). Any one fancy a p iss up?
Count me in for the Supermodel bit! 8)

Do you think your in with a shout - with eye's like that? :wink:

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Post by Porty » 09 Nov 2005, 00:08

Gemini wrote:

Do you think your in with a shout - with eye's like that? :wink:
He has a hell of a man-made superstructure. :wink: :shock:

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Post by Dadaist » 11 Nov 2005, 09:34

I have just looked up Moi?'s IP address.

:D

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Post by Porty » 11 Nov 2005, 11:23

Spill it!!

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Post by Dadaist » 11 Nov 2005, 11:28

Why put my cards on the table with a hand as cool as this?

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Post by ecm » 11 Nov 2005, 11:30

Dadaist wrote:I have just looked up Moi?'s IP address.

:D
I kind of assumed Moi? was you, Dada. :lol:

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Post by Porty » 11 Nov 2005, 11:31

I feel a poll coming on. :D

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Post by Dadaist » 11 Nov 2005, 11:36

ecm wrote:
Dadaist wrote:I have just looked up Moi?'s IP address.

:D
I kind of assumed Moi? was you, Dada. :lol:
No. On another board, I carried on an alter-ego called Jonah. He was an evangelical 14 year-old from Memphis.

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Post by Maria » 11 Nov 2005, 11:38

Porty wrote:I feel a poll coming on. :D
*that'll be JPski.* Anyhow, can I remind folk that this is the serious Forum and any tittle tattle/confessions should move to the Portobello Online Forum.
www.porty.org.uk

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Post by Dadaist » 11 Nov 2005, 11:47

Marya wrote:
Porty wrote:I feel a poll coming on. :D
*that'll be JPski.* Anyhow, can I remind folk that this is the serious Forum and any tittle tattle/confessions should move to the Portobello Online Forum.
Hey Marya what gives?

The minute I decide to take a first look at this lovely forum, I see shenanigans and decide to join in the mix.

I must come in here more often.

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Post by Porty » 11 Nov 2005, 12:03

Marya wrote: Anyhow, can I remind folk that this is the serious Forum and any tittle tattle/confessions should move to the Portobello Online Forum.
Ah yes, it was this time last year when us lowly members of the POL community had to fight for the right to start topics in the serious Portobello Matters forum.

How weird does that seem now?

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Post by Dadaist » 11 Nov 2005, 12:12

Porty wrote:
Marya wrote: Anyhow, can I remind folk that this is the serious Forum and any tittle tattle/confessions should move to the Portobello Online Forum.
Ah yes, it was this time last year when us lowly members of the POL community had to fight for the right to start topics in the serious Portobello Matters forum.

How weird does that seem now?
I have decided to start taking an interest in local development issues.

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Post by Porty » 11 Nov 2005, 12:14

In that case local development issues better watch out. :evil:

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Post by Dadaist » 11 Nov 2005, 12:36

Porty wrote:In that case local development issues better watch out. :evil:
I can see things developing.

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Post by Porty » 11 Nov 2005, 12:41

You have to start off with the negatives.

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Post by Dadaist » 11 Nov 2005, 12:43

Porty wrote:You have to start off with the negatives.
Oh right. You're gonna have to help me out here. New to this.

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Post by Porty » 11 Nov 2005, 12:47

thinkaboutditt !!

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Post by Dadaist » 11 Nov 2005, 12:49

Porty wrote:thinkaboutditt !!
er....development sucks?

down with the developers?

say no to development?

1,2,3,4, we want development no more?

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Post by Porty » 11 Nov 2005, 12:52

Dadaist wrote:
I can see things developing.
Porty wrote:You have to start off with the negatives.
Think Wangi!!

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Post by Dadaist » 11 Nov 2005, 14:03

Porty wrote:
Dadaist wrote:
I can see things developing.
Porty wrote:You have to start off with the negatives.
Think Wangi!!
duh. i'm having a slow brain week.

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Post by Porty » 11 Nov 2005, 14:19

Dadaist wrote:
duh. i'm having a slow brain week.
I knew it, eventually my knockout would be down to you. Still, it was a blissful 14 hours or so.

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