Superstore - New Petrol Station - Parking - New Access

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Superstore - New Petrol Station - Parking - New Access

Post by Gemini » 14 Aug 2003, 11:42

The neighbours of the former Scottish Power site have this morning been informed of notification for plannng permission to construct the forementioned utilities on the Scottish Power site.

Anyone who is interested on what impact this will have on the local Portobello commmunity - are invited to attend a meeting being held at PADCA community hall - tomorrow - Friday 15th August at 7.00pm.

We are hoping that the developer ;Duddingston House Portobello Limited will be in attendance with their proposals and drawings etc. but i have just received a call from Charles Martin and he is not sure if someone from his company can be in attendace at such short notice!! We would obviously request a representative from Portobello Community Council along with a representative from the Portobello Amenity Council.

We have informed Lawrence Marshall's ansaphone!! - hopefully he will also be in attendance.

I am led to beleive that this is not what the City of Edinburgh Council wanted on this site - however, the residents at Bath Street did not want the edifice on their site also - but they are getting it just the same.

We look forward to a good tun out and support for the communities within the community to support our objections to this proposed new development. :shock:

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Post by Guest » 14 Aug 2003, 20:29

What more can you tell us about this? Do you know which supermarket is concerned? What stage is the application at?

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Post by Gemini » 15 Aug 2003, 07:46

We are at the Application in Principle Stage.

I have been given a 'outline design of the proposals' (from the sketch) it appears that the 'Superstore' will be built nearer to western end of Portobello High Street - with service entrance between new superstore and listed buildings!!

Again from the sketch! there will be a new petrol station which will be located behind kwik-fit , the access for the Petrol Filling Station will be from 'Fishwives Causeway' - this appears to be the main 'way in' 'way out' route for vehicles to use the parking facilities - which we have been told can accommodate up to 400 cars!!

We were unable to have a representative of Duddingston House Properties attend the meeting tonight at the Community Centre, due to short notice.

The Design (in Principle) proposals that we have received from the aforementioned Developers can be viewed at tonights meeting.

We have been trying to reach Cllr. Marshall since the rumours started spreading - unfortunately he has not contacted any of us to date.

We are hoping for a good turn out from the residents and all concerned parties!!

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Post by Guest » 15 Aug 2003, 17:30

Thanks. Please keep us updated on this issue.

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Post by Susan » 16 Aug 2003, 23:56

Hi,

Sorry that I couldn't get to the meeting, I would have liked to see the plans.

Whilst we must accept development in Portobello I think this proposal is ill conceived.

I have heard that there will be car parking for 450 cars.
So that means the expectation is 450 cars to park and shop at this site with a turn around of approximatley one car per hour, from 9am to 10pm, the possibility is that there will be an extra 40000 cars entering Portobello per week!

I know that even the best Superstores have quiet periods and that 40,000 may be their dream! (Although maybe not impossible, think about Niddrie Mains Road from mid November to Christmas)

However I think that before any consideration to such a proposal the present conditions at the King's Road roundabout must be addressed.

The roundabout with the present flow of traffic is dangerous for all road users.

Do the residents of Brighton Place and Duddingston Road realise that they will have an increased traffic flow as people like myself will seek an alternative route in and out of Portobello?

There must be a better place to put a Superstore - how about Kinnaird or the Fort area where access roads are being provided?

It certainly does not seem right for the gateway to Portobello.

Susan

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Post by Gemini » 17 Aug 2003, 00:56

Thanks for making it clear Susan about the impact of traffic to this site - if it goes ahead..

The Residents had a good support at the meeting and many valid points of objections were taken on board and will be submitted in due course to the Planning Department.

We are aware that the proposals are contrary to the Local Area Guidelines and will be moving forward on this point.

We have also been advised that the 'proposed superstore' will be operating 24/7! along with the new Petrol Filling Station!

I am not sure if the immediate surrounding residential area's have been advised of just how these 'proposals' will effect them - If there is anyone in the immediate vicinity at Westbank Development etc, Kings Road who are against the new site - to get in contact with me or make their objections known on this site.

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Post by Guest » 17 Aug 2003, 01:05

Lawrence Marshall has now clearly stated his position on the proposals. His email is copied below in its entirety. Apologies for the length but as this is a very important issue with Portobello-wide repercussions I am sure you will want to know precisely how your local councillor feels about it.
Scottish Power's Baileyfield site has now been sold to Duddingston House Properties who currently have advertised the properties there for let on a temporary basis.

More permanently, their hope is to largely clear the site and build a supermarket roughly the size of the "Safeway" at Piershill with some 445 parking spaces around it. The supermarket building itself would be situated on the High Street roughly opposite Westbank Place with the current petrol filling station re-located to behind "Kwik-Fit". Cars would enter via Fishwives Causeway with a service entrance off the High Street.

Earlier this year the Council, at my request, produced design guidelines for this site and these will form a material planning matter in considering the outline planning application now lodged with the Council by Duddingston House Properties.

The guidelines state that "comprehensive redevelopment of the site" should have three main objectives:
  • to mark a gateway into Portobello

    to ensure that comprehensive redevelopment knits the area back into Portobello in a positive way which respects and enhances its sense of place

    to integrate the existing housing into a sympathetic spatial structure which offers better security and improves amenity
Further, "with so much of the area in single ownership there is the opportunity to create a positive gateway and then to extend the best of the Portobello's identity and character back along this part of the High Street. This will require sensitive interpretation and a high quality urban and architectural design response". In particular, "new three and four storey development is recommended to give a continuous frontage" along the High Street, storey heights then stepping down "across the site to offer a transition ... to the one/one and a half storey houses on Baileyfield Road".

"New development should integrate with Portobello's fine grain, varied spatial patterns, three dimensional form and scale, rhythms, heights and skyline ... a change away from the current sense of 'anywhere' to a future of 'somewhere'".

In a covering letter which I wrote to local residents in Baileyfield Road to accompany a copy of these guidelines I stated that "I would hope that it might be possible to begin to see a more mixed use for this site ... I hope ... that any proposal ... will include a fairly substantial element of housing to go along with any proposals for offices and potentially some small retail developments".

Needless to say, then, I'm really very disappointed that the current proposal has arisen. In my opinion, it will not help to knit this site back into the grain of Portobello but rather seem a discordant appendage at its very entrance. It's a one use rather than mixed use offer, its use of space probably uninspiring and car-dominated. Moreover, I believe that it will compete with existing uses in the High Street rather than help to enhance them.

By making these comments now I have forfeited my right to vote when this application comes to be considered at committee. However, I am thereby freed to speak on behalf of Portobello on this very important matter - a much more important consideration for me.

Finally, if people wish to receive a copy of the guidelines referred to above, please e-mail me at lawrence.marshall@edinburgh.gov.uk or 'phone me at the City Chambers on 529 3282.

Councillor Lawrence Marshall

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Post by Guest » 17 Aug 2003, 09:24

And here is what all the fuss is about. Is this the 'gateway' development we have all been hoping for? What do you think?

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Post by kittywink » 17 Aug 2003, 12:13

I have to say that the last thing Portobello & Joppa need is more car congestion. The bypass was created in order to decrease the traffic passing along the High Street. I'm sure residents will remember the high volume of traffic prior to that. As for a 'gateway to Portobello'! More a violation of the environment.
Obviously a supermarket is a huge money earner for big business. The land would be put to good use in that sense. Where do people and democracy fit in with this. If Mr Marshal has forfeited his right to vote on this matter, what implications does that have for this appalling proposal?
What about Maureen Childs position who is also on the Planning committee? If Mrs Childs stays on this committee who will represent her constiuents?

Social housing would be good use of this site....Affordable housing for first time buyers, social workers etc. Cetainly not a Superstore and its negative environmental impact.

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Post by Guest » 17 Aug 2003, 18:40

I'm acutely aware of nimby-ism here but... does East Edinburgh even need another supermarket? Already, we have a choice of Asda, Safeway, Marks & Spencer, Scotmid (Leith) Sainsbury's and Tesco all within five minute's drive... and at least three of them on good regular bus routes. And then there's Kwik Save, Iceland, Lidl... Not to mention out own shopping facilities (which are excellent).

It's the traffic buildup that worries me. Already, I avoid the rush-hour when leaving work, only to get caught up most days in the traffic congestion entering Portobello.

I'm not a happy bunny.

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Post by administrator » 18 Aug 2003, 18:08

Find below a message posted recently by Lawrence Marshall. I have moved it to the more current thread to maintain some continuity.

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I've pasted in below a copy of some information regarding the format of planning applications, where and when to view them and how to make representations regarding them.
This information and more is available at www.edinburgh.gov.uk/planning
My guess is that the outline planning application for a supermarket on the former Scottish Power site will appear on the Weekly Planning List either this week or next.
The Head of Planning's e-mail address is alan.henderson@edinburgh.gov.uk
I understand that it's perfectly in order to make representations by e-mail to this address. It's always a good idea to quote the application number when doing so. Hence, it would probably be best to wait until this application is officially published before making representations.
When I know the number myself, I'll post it on this site. But please note that I'm away on holiday from Thursday 21st to Thursday 28th August.

Councillor Lawrence Marshall

* * * * *

You can inspect the application forms, plans, and other documents submitted, at the enquiry office, address below - 1 Cockburn Street.
The enquiry counter is open from:

 8.30 - 4.30 Monday and Tuesday 

 9.00 - 4.30 Wednesday 

 8.30 - 6.00 Thursday 

 8.30 - 3.30 Friday 



The Valid Planning Applications List Format
The Valid Planning Applications List is formatted to show as much information about the registered applications as possible. Below is a description of the information included in the List:
this means...
Constraints
a list of the key planning considerations which will affect the determination of the application:
 if it is in a conservation area
 if it is a statutory listed building
Application Number a unique sequential reference number for the application. The suffix defines the type of application, e.g. FUL= detailed planning permission, etc. (See list below)
Proposed Development and Address a description of what the applicant is proposing to do and the address where they are proposing to do it
Agent’s Name and Address The name of the company/person acting on behalf of the applicant proposing to carry out the development and their mailing address
Applicants Name and Address the name of the individual(s) proposing to carry out the development and their mailing address
Potential Method of Decision Whether the council anticipates that the application could be determined using Delegated Powers, or whether it is clear that it will have to be presented to the weekly Development Quality Sub-Committee for determination
Date Registered and Advertised the date that the application was registered as valid by the Council. The 21 day period for making representations starts with this day. Where applicable, the date the application is to be advertised is also shown. The period for representation is extended to 21 days following the date of advertisement
Officer and ‘Phone No. the name and telephone number of the Council Planning Officer assigned to assess the application and draft a recommendation

Types of Planning Application
ADV – Advert Application  CAC – Conservation Area Consent  CAD – Certificate of Appropriate Alternative Development  CLD – Certificate of Lawfulness of Development  CLU – Certificate of Lawfulness of Use  CON – Planning Consultation  ELC – Consultation from East Lothian Council  FUL – Full Planning Application  GDT – Application by Government Department  HSC – Hazardous Substances Consent  LBC – Listed Building Consent  MLC – Consultation from Midlothian Council  OPA – Consultation by Planning Authority outwith the Lothians  OUT – Outline Application  REM – Approval of Reserved Matters  STU – Application by Statutory Undertaker  WLC – Consultation by West Lothian Council
Making Representations
If there is something about the proposal to which you object or wish to make comment, then you should make your representations in writing, signing and dating the letter, and clearly stating the grounds on which the objection/representation is made (see below). Objections/representations must be received by the Head of Planning within 21 days of the date of registration, or advertisement in the press, whichever is the later. The representations should be sent to:
Head of Planning, City Development Department, Planning, 1 Cockburn Street, PO Box 12473, EDINBURGH, EH1 1ZJ.
or fax them to the same address on: (0131) 529 7478.
Assistance in understanding proposals and plans submitted, and the relevant planning policies, will be available through the Planning Help Desk for people wishing to make comments. We cannot, however, provide people with grounds for objection.
Material Considerations
The Council can only consider representations made on valid planning grounds. These are called “material considerationsâ€Â

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Post by Guest » 26 Aug 2003, 17:53

Link to Evening News article 26/8 in case anyone missed it:

http://www.edinburghnews.com/edinburgh.cfm?id=939962003

This proposed development was discussed at the Community Council meeting last night. There is a great deal of concern not just from local traders but from local residents as well, who recognise that this is bad news for everyone, and the petition sheets are filling up very quickly. Watch this space for advice on how to register your objection to the proposals and the grounds for objection you may wish to cite.

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Post by Guest » 28 Aug 2003, 17:19

The following is the text of a letter to be distributed this weekend to more than 250 households in the Rosefield/Brightons area by Brightons Residents Association. Please feel free to copy or quote from it if you wish to summon your own friends and neighbours into action. A large number of objections will demonstrate the strength of local public opinion so please use the democratic process to make your views known.

You can study the application at your leisure at:

http://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/ ... geCount=17

Pages 12-14 will be of particular interest to you.

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Dear Resident

You may be aware of a proposed ‘superstore’ development at the former Scottish Power site. An outline planning application has been submitted to build a food store with a ground floor area of 60,000 sq feet, along with a petrol station and car parking for 445 cars. Your local councillor, Lawrence Marshall, has already publicly announced that he is opposed to these plans.

Local traders are understandably very worried about these proposals. Many local shops struggle to survive as it is and would very likely go under if this development goes ahead. Local residents are concerned as well, since they recognise that our High Street shops are an important part of the community. We already have a local supermarket (Scotmid), which has been recently refurbished and several others within easy driving distance.

You may also wish to consider the traffic implications. The Kings Road roundabout already has large tailbacks at peak times and there are bound to be knock-on effects in Brighton Place and elsewhere.

If you would like to object to these proposals, here are some things you can do:

• Sign the petition opposing the development. Kitchener’s, Findlay’s and many other local shops have copies.

• Write to the Planning Department at 1 Cockburn Street, Edinburgh, EH1 1ZJ or email the Head of Planning at: alan.henderson@edinburgh.gov.uk quoting application number 03/03021/OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

• Insist that the developer carry out a Traffic Impact Analysis, an Environmental Impact Study and a Retail Impact Study and request that these should be made available in the public domain, eg in the local library.


Some of your grounds for objection might include the following:

• The proposals contravene Policy E26 of the North East Edinburgh Local Plan (February 1996) which, in considering the quality of new development, states that ‘particular attention will be paid
to the need to enhance main or important thoroughfares.’

• The proposals also contravene Policy S1, which states that new development should be ‘appropriate in scale and character and well integrated with the (district) centre in design terms,’ that it should ‘compliment the (district) centre in its existing role’ and that it should be ‘not likely to affect adversely the vitality and viability of any other district centre.’

• The proposals go against the Council’s own Urban Design Principles, a set of policy guidelines for this important ‘gateway’ site. (A copy of this is available on request.)

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Post by Gemini » 28 Aug 2003, 22:14

Bob,

Do not know if its my computer ! but cannot pull up anything more than 1st page of the letter from Drysdale Planning consultant to City Development.

Am anxious to read pages 12 - 14

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Post by Guest » 28 Aug 2003, 22:36

Was working earlier. Think it might be a problem with their server. This is a brand new service the Planning Department is offering and it seems they are having teething problems. Try again tomorrow.

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Post by Emma » 01 Sep 2003, 19:03

I am one of the many people really concerned about this proposed development - not only will it not add anything to the character of Portobello - the inevitable impact on shops in the centre will actively impair the character and sense of community.

I am also concerned about the additional traffic involved - how will this affect children walking to and from Towerbank and also the Adelphi grove community centre and Indoor Bowls centre which run classes for small children?

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Post by angigael » 02 Sep 2003, 17:43

Gemini wrote:Bob,

Do not know if its my computer ! but cannot pull up anything more than 1st page of the letter from Drysdale Planning consultant to City Development.

Am anxious to read pages 12 - 14
Go to http://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/publicaccess/

Select Search for a Planning Application

Then Search for Application Number 03/03021/OUT

Select button to right of the column Status, adjacent to Pending Consideration

Then Associated Documents and View Associated Images

Then Thumbnails

And select the fourth thumbnail image from the left which gave me 17 pages.

The pages seem a bit mixed up.

Angi

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Last day for objecting (or approving)

Post by angigael » 03 Sep 2003, 16:31

Gemini wrote:Bob,

Do not know if its my computer ! but cannot pull up anything more than 1st page of the letter from Drysdale Planning consultant to City Development.

Am anxious to read pages 12 - 14
The planning website seems to be throwing wobblies now and again. I found that http://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/ ... N8LEWU1000 will take me straight to the application and then proceed from there.

Tomorrow is the last day for any objections to go in.

Cheers
Angi

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Post by Guest » 03 Sep 2003, 19:39

Angi

My understanding is that the deadline for objections is 17 September. I certainly hope this is the case as I haven't got round to writing mine yet! This information came from John Stewart, chair of PAS, so I assume it is correct.

It's great to see the petition sheets filling up. Almost without exception, everyone I have spoken to is totally against these proposals and understands only too well the threat they pose to our community. I am confident that, if a sufficient number of people write letters of objection, this application will be confined to the waste paper bin where it belongs.

It is our sense of community, our 'town within a city' status that makes Porty such a desirable place to live, as distinct to the homogenised, McAnywheresville blandness of so many other parts of Edinburgh. This is a key moment in the re-generation of Portobello and this is not a battle we can afford to lose. Superstore? Superbore. Use your right to object.

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Post by Guest » 12 Sep 2003, 17:54

Hope those of you who intend to write or email letters of objection have now done so, as time is running out rapidly. If you have been meaning to, but haven't quite got round to it yet, this weekend may be your last chance, so take ten minutes and let the Planning Department know how you feel about these proposals. Check the previous posts for details of how to register your objection. Who knows, your voice might just tip the balance.

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Post by Guest » 12 Sep 2003, 19:43

And here's a link to a very well written letter from a local resident in today's (12/9) Evening News, in case you missed it:

http://www.news.scotsman.com/archive.cfm?id=1009282003

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Post by Guest » 18 Sep 2003, 15:51

A quick update on this. The petition was delivered to the Planning Department, containing over 3000 signatures! Even allowing for some people who may have signed more than once, this still demonstrates an extraordinary level of support.

The case officer for this application is currently on annual leave but I was able to ascertain that a 'very large pile' of letters of objection is in his in-tray awaiting his return. Watch this space for further information.

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Post by Susan » 18 Sep 2003, 23:25

Hi,

I read the letter in the Evening News and thought it was spot on.

In tonight's news there are reports of Morrison's Supermarket chain mounting an assault on the Scottish Market. Are they the contenders for this site? Perhaps they will have to be "sent homewards to think again!"

Susan

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Post by Guest » 19 Sep 2003, 18:42

The following is a copy of an internal memo sent by Richard Barclay to Alan Henderson, recently circulated by Lawrence Marshall to his email contact group. As it is now in the public domain I thought you may be interested in reading it. I should add that anyone who would like to be added to this email group simply has to email Lawrence.

From Richard Barclay Memorandum
To Alan Henderson Our Ref RiB/JG

Date 27 August, 2003 Your Ref

PROPOSED SUPERSTORE AT FORMER SCOTTISH POWER SITE, PORTOBELLO

Councillor Marshall has informed me of the application for outline consent to build a superstore at the Baileyfield site by Duddingston House Properties, I would wish to make the following points:
  • The site is an important gateway into Portobello, as recognised by the Statement of Urban Design Principles for Baileyfield as approved by the Planning Committee on 6 Feb 2003. The proposed supermarket would not meet the necessary standards of urban design or architecture to fulfill this role.

    City Development Department have been working with other departments to promote Portobello and improve the quality of life for the residents and visitors alike. As part of this initiative we have been developing projects to support local traders survive and thrive. It is Economic Developments opinion that locating a supermarket would be detrimental to the existing traders capacity to survive and undermine the work of this Department in developing the principles of the Urban Village Charter for Portobello.

    The volume of traffic generated by this store would significantly impact on the environment of Portobello and cause additional congestion to the High Street which is already heavily congested and impacts negatively on the impression of the area.

    The location of the superstore would not add to the character of the High Street, nor increase High Street retail offer as it is significantly distant from the core retail area.

    As a link office for the Portobello Initiative (this department’s working group on Portobello) I am in regular contact with representatives from the community, traders association and I have received several comments from community contacts, none of these comments have been in favour of the proposed superstore.
I trust you will note these comments and concerns over this application and I would appreciate if you could arrange for this section to be informed of the progress of this application. I would also ask that a retail and traffic impact analysis be undertaken for this proposal by consultants that are independent of the applicant.

Richard Barclay
Senior Economic Development Officer
Direct Dial: 0131 529 4315
Email: richard.barclay@edinburgh.gov.uk
cc Councillor Lawrence Marshall
Councillor Maureen Child
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Post by Gemini » 11 Oct 2003, 00:07

I thought everyone concerned about the proposed Superstore on the former Scottish Power Site would be glad to know that a Public Meeting has been organised in 'Portobello Town Hall' on Monday 3rd November, 2003 at 7.30pm

Speakers will range from residents of Baileyfield Road Group/The Shopkeepers Association/ and Representatives from Edinburgh City Council.

Our Local Councillor /MSP/MP have also been invited.

When I have details of the Agenda I will post them on the site.

Please come along to make your views known on what 'you' would like to see on this important gateway site into Portobello.

Many thanks

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Post by Guest » 13 Oct 2003, 18:27

I have just been alerted to a very interesting story in today's Evening News, which will be of great interest to everyone who is opposed to the Scottish Power site development. The developer is one Duddingston House Properties and their sales pitch sounds oddly familiar.

http://www.news.scotsman.com/archive.cf ... DOCUMENT=1


Perhaps the Portobello action group should be liaising with our friends in Dunbar?

BTW Lawrence Marshall reports that it may be some time before the application comes before the planning sub-committee, due to the requirement to carry out retail and traffic impact assessments.

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Post by Cynthia » 14 Oct 2003, 23:09

Have just joined this Forum - its a great way of people in Porty communicating especially about things like this - I've only found out about the Superstore Plans recently and am horrified and hence got involved in helping to organise the public meeting on Monday 3rd November at 7.30pm in Porty Town Hall. I hope as many of you as possible can come to show your protest at this monster building plan and say what we would like to see on that site....so far Residents from nearby have agreed to speak briefly, and we hope a Council Planner will speak, and a Trader has agreed to speak plus plenty of time for us to discuss. Yes we are in contact with the Dunbar Campaign and the successful Campaign Against a Superstore in Gorgie....please keep posting advice, information, ideas etc and hope we can continue the great efforts people have made so far to stop this.... we will set up an email and post mail list to keep people informed so if you can't come send a message on how you would like to be kept informed or your ideas, via this forum or on my mobile on 07905 220954, cheers, Caroline aka Carla (I like the idea of a pseudonym! if that is what that is...)

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Post by Cynthia » 19 Oct 2003, 22:11

Latest news - Susan Deacon, and Colin Fox MSPs are coming to the Meeting on Monday 3rd November, 7.30pm, Porty Town Hall, organised to protest against the superstore - get it in your diaries and come along! Cllr Lawrence Marshall is also hoping to be there.

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Post by Guest » 26 Oct 2003, 14:04

I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Lawrence Marshall:

Dear All

Just to let you know that Duddingston House Properties have now officially been asked to submit to the Council both Retail and Traffic Impact Assessments of their proposal to build a supermarket on the former Scottish Power site at Baileyfield. Resident objections to this application are described as "extensive" - my thanks to all of you for that!

It's reckoned that the Impact Assessments will be ready in about 3-4 weeks. They will then be assessed by Council transport and planning policy officers. It's also likely that "a further round of consultation and publicity will be required". Given all that, the application may not be determinmed until early next year.

While there are certain archaeological and contamination issues to be dealt with, it's felt that these are "potentially resolvable". The problematic issues relate to "transport and retail impacts, the loss of zoned industrial land, and compliance with an adopted urban design brief".

Lawrence

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Post by Cynthia » 26 Oct 2003, 16:00

Good to hear that there will be retail, & traffic impact studies done by the Council. Will this include ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT? If not, it should - as anyone who lives on Porty High St will know, the pollution from cars is already quite enough - black grime on windows and eating away at the mastic - what does this do to our lungs? Also, the quality of the land, and any contamination issues, should be considered in great detail.

I also want to stress the importance of CONSULTATION - it should not be left up to the public to organise this so I would welcome the Council taking responsibility for this - I am unaware of consultation done by the developers - if they did any they would have been aware of the strong opposition to the development of a massive 24 hour superstore, 450 car park and petrol station on that site.and their Planning Application would have mentioned the presence of Scotmid and 6 other supermarkets in nearby area : :roll:

Can Lawrence answer this please?

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Post by Cynthia » 26 Oct 2003, 16:09

Just correcting my own message! - I now notice it is not the Council but the Developers who are to do the Impact Studies ! hopefully the Council officers assessing these studies can determine if they are sufficient....even more reason for us to keep a watch on this.... :!:

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Post by Guest » 04 Nov 2003, 05:03

Over 300 local residents packed out the public meeting at the Town Hall on a night that reminded us all exactly why we are proud to live in Portobello. Let's make it clear - this can't be dismissed as just a hard core of socialists and environmental protesters that the developers might have anticipated. Sure, the usual suspects were present, but no-one was here to score points. Instead, what we saw was a remarkable expression of solidarity and mutual support, transcending class and politics, in the face of what is correctly perceived as a very clear threat to our community.

In fact, looking around and recognising so many familiar faces, it was obvious that the vast majority of the people present tonight were simply ordinary members of the public, united in their concern at these proposals and smart enough to work out what they would mean. Did I say ordinary? Let me correct that. It is the EXTRA-ORDINARY people of Portobello who are driving this campaign and who, through their determination, will ensure that this development never sees the light of day.

We had stirring speeches and words of encouragement, particularly from Susan Deacon and Colin Fox, but the real stars tonight were the people of Portobello. Take a bow folks.

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Post by Carol » 04 Nov 2003, 19:38

Name and Registered Office

Duddingston House Portobello Limited
66 Queen Street
Edinburgh
Midlothian
EH2 4NE

Status: Active

Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business: (SIC(92)) None registered

Accounting Reference Date: 30/11
Last Accounts Made Up To:
Next Accounts Due: 30/09/2004
Last Return Made Up To:
Company Number: SC243687
Date of Incorporation: 10/02/2003
Country of Origin: United Kingdom

Previous Name: Duddingston House Clerk Street Limited
Date of Change: 08/05/2003

Branch Details
There are no branches associated with this company.

Overseas Company Information
There are no overseas details associated with this company.

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Hello, this is me now.

http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/info/

Although it says there are no branches associated with this limited company, I found thirteen other active Duddingston House Limited Companies all registered at 66 Queen Street, Edinburgh EH2 4NE. and have listed them below;

Duddingston House Morningside Limited Reg No SC243690
Duddingston House Renfield Street Limited Reg No SC243689
Duddingston House Brechin Limited SC250293
Duddingston House Queen Street Four Limited SC236403
Duddingston House Queen Street One Limited SC233042 and had a change of name from TM 1182 Limited
Duddingston House Queen Street Three Limited SC234829
Duddingston House Queen Street Two Limited
Duddingston House Quayside Limited
Duddingston House Properties Limited
Duddingston House Management Limited
Duddingston House Investments Limited - Nature of Business: Architectural and Technical Consultancy. Previous Name: Neesudden Limited.
Duddingston House Dunbar Limited. Nature of Business: None registered
Previous Name: TM 1188 Limited
Duddingston House Coatbridge Limited

Interesting.

Carol
Posts: 49
Joined: 26 Apr 2003, 18:30
Location: portobello

More About the Duddingston House Empire

Post by Carol » 06 Nov 2003, 21:50

Duddingston House Brechin Limited. Previous Name: Duddingston House Murrayfield Limited. Date of name change 02/09/2003. Date of Incorporation 30/05/2003.

Duddingston House Dunbar Ltd. Previous Name: TM 1188 Limited. Date of Name Change 05/11/2002.

Duddingston House Investments Limited. Previous Name: Neesudden Limited. Date of Name change 06/12/2002.

Duddingston House Management Limited. Nature of Business: 7032
Manage Real Estate, fee or contract. Previous Name TM 1182 Limited. Date of Name Change 21/08/2002.

Duddingston House Quayside Limited. Previous Name: TM 1207 Limited. Date of Name Change 30/10/2003.

Duddingston House Queen Street Four. Nature of Business: 7011 Development and Sell Real Estate. Previous Name TM 1187 Limited. Date of Name Change 19/11/2002.

Duddingston House Queen Street Three Limited. Nature of Business: 7011 Develop and Sell Real Estate. Previous Name: TM 1186 Limited. Date of Name Change 19/11/2002.

Duddingston House Queen Street One Limited. Nature of Business: 7011
Development and Sell Real Estate. Previous Name: TM 1184 Limited. Date of Name Change 19/11/2002.

Duddingston House Queen Street Two Limited. Nature of Business: Development and Sell Real Estate. Previous Name: TM 1185 Limited. Date of Name Change 19/11/2002.
Where I haven't included Nature of Business it is stated there is none listed against the entry.

There are another eight Active TM Companies registered at 66 Queen Street.

TM 1203 Limited
TM 1206 "
TM 1200
TM 1204
TM 1129 Dissolved on 07/10/2003. Nature of Business: Security Broking and Fund Management.
TM 1173 Dissolved on 13/05/2003.
TM 1176
TM 1177
TM 1190
TM 1181


Back tomorrow with Luminar Public Limited Company, Registered Office: 41 King Street, Luton, Bedfordshire LU1 1DW and the fifteen other Luminar Private Limited Companies also registered at the above address. Thirteen are active, one is dormant and one non-trading. Number one is Luminar(Asia) Limited.

Carol
Posts: 49
Joined: 26 Apr 2003, 18:30
Location: portobello

Good Company Searcher

Post by Carol » 06 Nov 2003, 21:59

Forgot to include this ...

http://www.snip-biz.co.uk/default.asp

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