Fatal accident King's Road Roundabout
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Ian Maxwell
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Fatal accident King's Road Roundabout
The flowers on the barrier at the edge of the King's Road Roundabout mark the spot where Maureen McElroy, a local cyclist, was killed on her way to work on Monday 26th May.
I cycle through this junction almost every week day.
I have sent three immediate suggestions for improving the safety of this roundabout to Maureen Child and Lawrence Marshall. and Cllr Andrew Burns, the Executive Member for Transport.
My suggestions are:
Immediate cut back of vegetation on the roundabout centre, which reduces visibility, followed by a levelling of the central mound. If you are in danger of being hit by a truck it makes sense to maximise your line of vision.
Speed camera on Seafield Road. I have already reported a "sighting" of a speed camera to the "freedom lobby" web sites that informs drivers of locations - I suggest you do the same with other camera "sightings" at http://www.speedcamerasuk.com/cameralocationform.htm
while also calling for a real one.
Signing for the Fishwives Causeway alternative to the roundabout to be erected on the Portobello High Street. Not every cyclist will want to use this route, especially in the other direction, but nobody will find it if it is not marked.
None of these things will bring Mo back, but they might help to prevent another accident. Traffic lights should make it safer, and there are many other things that could be done.
Andrew Burns replied to my email as follows:
"I am very, very sorry to hear of this tragic accident.
I will pursue the immediate measures you suggest as a matter of
urgency and I will take a little time to carefully read and respond to the
other e-mails and suggestions that have come through. I thought I should
respond to you immediately and I will ensure you are kept informed of any developments."
More comments and suggestions to him and to Maureen and Lawrence will help to keep up the pressure.
If you want more details - ring me on 669 6542.
Ian Maxwell
I cycle through this junction almost every week day.
I have sent three immediate suggestions for improving the safety of this roundabout to Maureen Child and Lawrence Marshall. and Cllr Andrew Burns, the Executive Member for Transport.
My suggestions are:
Immediate cut back of vegetation on the roundabout centre, which reduces visibility, followed by a levelling of the central mound. If you are in danger of being hit by a truck it makes sense to maximise your line of vision.
Speed camera on Seafield Road. I have already reported a "sighting" of a speed camera to the "freedom lobby" web sites that informs drivers of locations - I suggest you do the same with other camera "sightings" at http://www.speedcamerasuk.com/cameralocationform.htm
while also calling for a real one.
Signing for the Fishwives Causeway alternative to the roundabout to be erected on the Portobello High Street. Not every cyclist will want to use this route, especially in the other direction, but nobody will find it if it is not marked.
None of these things will bring Mo back, but they might help to prevent another accident. Traffic lights should make it safer, and there are many other things that could be done.
Andrew Burns replied to my email as follows:
"I am very, very sorry to hear of this tragic accident.
I will pursue the immediate measures you suggest as a matter of
urgency and I will take a little time to carefully read and respond to the
other e-mails and suggestions that have come through. I thought I should
respond to you immediately and I will ensure you are kept informed of any developments."
More comments and suggestions to him and to Maureen and Lawrence will help to keep up the pressure.
If you want more details - ring me on 669 6542.
Ian Maxwell
Re: Fatal accident King's Road Roundabout
I think that all of the residents in Portobello where shocked at the untimely death of this young woman in such tragic circumstances. Our hearts and thoughts go out to the family that is left behind.
Mr. Maxwell is correct in stating that this roundabout is a nightmare!!
The vegetation is 'too high' both on the roundabout and at the approaches to the roundabout from Harry Lauder Road, moreover there are no security barriers along the paths of the Sir Harry Lauder Road, this road is used by children accessing St. John's,Duddingston and Portobello High School (what happened to 'safe routes to school'?)
There is no signage for cyclists and vehicles alike on the fishwives causeway - Lawrence Marshall is aware of this problem!! and has been for many years.
Our Houses Front the Harry Lauder Road, I am assuming the speed limit is 40mph - there is one pedestrian crossing (on a slight bend) trust me when I say the speed of vehicles using this road are clocking 60 - 80 and at quieter times probably 100MPH!!
The Residents have in the past approached the Local Representative
complaining about the volume (14 million per year and rising) speed & noise of vehicles, along with the overgrown vegetation at the roudabout and the inapproriate sighting of the Pedestrian Crossing - but apparently Scottish Power financed this crossing for their Staff (which is true) but Laidlaws did not want it sited opposite their forecourt (which I am not sure is true)
Fishwives Causeway is a 'cycle route'?? which is a joke!! (no signage) if the cyclist is able to negotiate Fishwives Causeway during the day what with double parking of HGV's etc.. Cars being tested by the Local Garage...
they then have to negotiate the 'pedestrian crossing ' as mentioned it is on the slight bend in the road!! When trying to cross the road at the Pedestrian crossing from Fishwives Causeway, it is extremely scary , pedestrians cannot have a clear view of the road running from west to east, they basically hope that the vehicle will see the traffic lights at red and stop - there is never a day goes by when vehicles do not run the red light.
Crossing to Fishwives Causeway from Telferton is another hazard - when you reach the other side of Harry Lauder Road - you are on to Baileyfield Road - there is no pavement for pedestrians!! if you are unfamiliar with this area it can be daunting.
The opening for this crossing is by far to wide with no security railings for pedestrians, we complained and the council put in one single bollard, probably due to vehicles accessing Harry Lauder Road from the Causeway and vice versa!!
We residents have for years complained about the gross dangers of this area for pedestrians and cyclists alike. I do not know if this is also in ROSPA's remit.
Camera's along with traffic calming measures are desperately needed in these locations.
Mr. Maxwell is correct in stating that this roundabout is a nightmare!!
The vegetation is 'too high' both on the roundabout and at the approaches to the roundabout from Harry Lauder Road, moreover there are no security barriers along the paths of the Sir Harry Lauder Road, this road is used by children accessing St. John's,Duddingston and Portobello High School (what happened to 'safe routes to school'?)
There is no signage for cyclists and vehicles alike on the fishwives causeway - Lawrence Marshall is aware of this problem!! and has been for many years.
Our Houses Front the Harry Lauder Road, I am assuming the speed limit is 40mph - there is one pedestrian crossing (on a slight bend) trust me when I say the speed of vehicles using this road are clocking 60 - 80 and at quieter times probably 100MPH!!
The Residents have in the past approached the Local Representative
complaining about the volume (14 million per year and rising) speed & noise of vehicles, along with the overgrown vegetation at the roudabout and the inapproriate sighting of the Pedestrian Crossing - but apparently Scottish Power financed this crossing for their Staff (which is true) but Laidlaws did not want it sited opposite their forecourt (which I am not sure is true)
Fishwives Causeway is a 'cycle route'?? which is a joke!! (no signage) if the cyclist is able to negotiate Fishwives Causeway during the day what with double parking of HGV's etc.. Cars being tested by the Local Garage...
they then have to negotiate the 'pedestrian crossing ' as mentioned it is on the slight bend in the road!! When trying to cross the road at the Pedestrian crossing from Fishwives Causeway, it is extremely scary , pedestrians cannot have a clear view of the road running from west to east, they basically hope that the vehicle will see the traffic lights at red and stop - there is never a day goes by when vehicles do not run the red light.
Crossing to Fishwives Causeway from Telferton is another hazard - when you reach the other side of Harry Lauder Road - you are on to Baileyfield Road - there is no pavement for pedestrians!! if you are unfamiliar with this area it can be daunting.
The opening for this crossing is by far to wide with no security railings for pedestrians, we complained and the council put in one single bollard, probably due to vehicles accessing Harry Lauder Road from the Causeway and vice versa!!
We residents have for years complained about the gross dangers of this area for pedestrians and cyclists alike. I do not know if this is also in ROSPA's remit.
Camera's along with traffic calming measures are desperately needed in these locations.
It's very sad what happened on the King's road roundabout and as a cyclist who uses it nearly every day,I know about the dangers that exist on it.
I'm not sure if removing the vegatation would improve safety as it might l encourage speeding drivers to go even faster to get into gaps that they could then see in traffic flows etc.
A possible alternative option would be to install part time traffic lights that could be used during the rush hour.
Traffic lights on busy roundabouts have worked well at cameron toll and sherriffhall where it is very much safer for cyclists than the existing busy roundabouts at kings road and Brunstane.
Pedestrian crossings could be added at the sametime with the lights as the other crossings just before the roundabouts would need probably need to be removed.
I imagine this is probably on the authorities agenda for improving traffic flows and safety in this area anyway.
Kevin.
Kevin.
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In a small, close-knit community like Portobello this kind of tragedy affects almost everyone. If you didn’t know Maureen, you probably know someone who did. As an occasional cyclist myself, I must confess that I invariably avoid Kings Road by taking the alternative route through Fishwives Causeway. Roundabouts are inherently dangerous although most accidents tend to be minor shunts. Increasing traffic volumes have necessitated the installation of traffic lights on roundabouts elsewhere and, as Kevin correctly assumes, this was already on the cards for Kings Road. Whether the roundabout itself remains or is replaced by some other type of junction is debatable but, while there are aesthetic considerations involved, safety concerns must now be paramount, even at the expense of traffic flow if necessary. A new speed camera has recently been installed on the Sir Harry Lauder Road at the entrance to the freightliner terminal to detect westbound traffic. From personal experience I know that large numbers of motorists crash the pedestrian activated lights further up the road so hopefully this should slow them down a bit. A new pedestrian crossing is scheduled for Portobello Road at Fishwives Causeway and it is important that Ian’s suggestion of better signage for this route is acted upon without delay.
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Lawrence Marshall
Fatal accident at King's Road roundabout
I was very sorry on my return from holiday this week to learn of the fatal accident which occurred at the King's Road roundabout on the morning of Monday 26th May.
The thought of this accident has stayed with me since and I have contacted the Council's officials with the suggestions raised with me by local cyclists.
I understand that there was to be a site meeting involving the Council and the police today (Thursday 12 June 2003) at the roundabout and I will update this site with any new information arising from this.
I actually was unaware that the Fishwives Causeway alternative route to town wasn't signposted from Portobello High Street - it certainly is from Moira Terrace. I hope that our officials can speedily put up the necessary signage.
As folk probably are aware it it likely that traffic lights will be installed in the reasonably near future at the King's Road roundabout. Whether the roundabout itself remains is uncertain but the view of the Community Council is that its complete removal would not be welcome if it was only to be replaced by a large expanse of black tarmac.
In terms of the height of the existing vegetation on the roundabout, there is a view by safety experts that this actually helps reduce traffic speeds on the roundabout since to provide a clear view right across would tempt folk to "go for it". Recent trimming work and painting of chevrons has thus largely been a tidying up exercise.
I hope that Spokes and other cyclists will feel free to continue to make suggestions for improving the situation at the rounabout for cyclists in the short term known to me and to our officials - I will press for any such improvements that can be made to be made as quickly as possible.
The thought of this accident has stayed with me since and I have contacted the Council's officials with the suggestions raised with me by local cyclists.
I understand that there was to be a site meeting involving the Council and the police today (Thursday 12 June 2003) at the roundabout and I will update this site with any new information arising from this.
I actually was unaware that the Fishwives Causeway alternative route to town wasn't signposted from Portobello High Street - it certainly is from Moira Terrace. I hope that our officials can speedily put up the necessary signage.
As folk probably are aware it it likely that traffic lights will be installed in the reasonably near future at the King's Road roundabout. Whether the roundabout itself remains is uncertain but the view of the Community Council is that its complete removal would not be welcome if it was only to be replaced by a large expanse of black tarmac.
In terms of the height of the existing vegetation on the roundabout, there is a view by safety experts that this actually helps reduce traffic speeds on the roundabout since to provide a clear view right across would tempt folk to "go for it". Recent trimming work and painting of chevrons has thus largely been a tidying up exercise.
I hope that Spokes and other cyclists will feel free to continue to make suggestions for improving the situation at the rounabout for cyclists in the short term known to me and to our officials - I will press for any such improvements that can be made to be made as quickly as possible.
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When i was return to work which i work for the council which i am tractor driver which i always cleaning beach with machine i saw the flowers there which it was surprised that happen and i knew the roundabout really busy every day and it would be very best way to get new traffic lights because when i finished with beach i go through kings road and i always wait wait wait for about 5 to 10 mins approx then finally clear so i quickly enter roundabout so it is BEST WAY is traffic lights as it would less accidents
robert
When i was return to work which i work for the council which i am tractor driver which i always cleaning beach with machine i saw the flowers there which it was surprised that happen and i knew the roundabout really busy every day and it would be very best way to get new traffic lights because when i finished with beach i go through kings road and i always wait wait wait for about 5 to 10 mins approx then finally clear so i quickly enter roundabout so it is BEST WAY is traffic lights as it would less accidents
robert
I am rather surprised at Councillor Marshalls remarks that he was unaware that there were any signage at Porty High Street/Fishwives Causeway, the Residents at Baileyfield Road have been for many years advising the Councillor that there is' no adequate signage at all for this immediate area' , eg. Cul-de-sac, Cycle Route, or indeed that there is a Residential Street located here!!
I would hope that Lawrence has read the posting regarding the dangers of the crossing at Fishwives Causeway/Harry Lauder Road - we shall await his response!!
I would hope that Lawrence has read the posting regarding the dangers of the crossing at Fishwives Causeway/Harry Lauder Road - we shall await his response!!
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Lawrence Marshall
Fatal accident at King's Road roundabout
In response to "Gemini" I was aware of the request for a "cul-de-sac" sign to indicate before getting that far that Baileyfield Road at the top of the first section of Fishwives Causeway leaving Portobello is a dead end. Our officials have placed such a sign at the top - but I agree that one closer to Portobello High Street would be useful.
I received the e-mail below today from Graeme Paget of City Development. I thought that it might be of interest. I should add that I also spoke today to someone related to the lady killed at the roundabout who gave me a better idea of the circumstances leading to her tragic death.
... e-mail from Graeme Paget:
Hello Everyone
I can offer the following information on these matters :-
This Department's Cycle Team will be reviewing the signing for the cycle route on Fishwives Causeway and will instigate improvements where necessary.
The re-design of the road junction (which may or may nor include the removal of the roundabout) will be carried out as part of a 3 year programme for The Quality Bus Corridor Project. There are no detailed designs available as yet since the project only got underway in April 2003. I believe however, that this junction may be one of the first to be constructed within the overall project.
The vegetation on the roundabout has been fairly well maintained over the last 18months as part of a combined effort between Network Services and Environmental Services' Local Area Task Force. There are no statistics to indicate that the foliage creates a road safety issue, therefore it is not proposaed that this be cut back further at this time. If there are any particular locations that raise concerns for cyclists with regards to foliage, please do contact me to discuss this further.
I am sure that the new road layout proposed for this location will offer cyclists greater priorities through the junction. As described above though, details of this do not exist yet.
Finally, I am aware that a speed camera is proposed for Sir Harry Lauder Road and this is due to be installed this year.
If you would like to discuss any of the above issues further, please contact me and I will direct you to the appropriate section of our the Department.
Regards
Graeme Paget
Professional Officer
Network Services - North Area
Tel : 0131 529 3718
I received the e-mail below today from Graeme Paget of City Development. I thought that it might be of interest. I should add that I also spoke today to someone related to the lady killed at the roundabout who gave me a better idea of the circumstances leading to her tragic death.
... e-mail from Graeme Paget:
Hello Everyone
I can offer the following information on these matters :-
This Department's Cycle Team will be reviewing the signing for the cycle route on Fishwives Causeway and will instigate improvements where necessary.
The re-design of the road junction (which may or may nor include the removal of the roundabout) will be carried out as part of a 3 year programme for The Quality Bus Corridor Project. There are no detailed designs available as yet since the project only got underway in April 2003. I believe however, that this junction may be one of the first to be constructed within the overall project.
The vegetation on the roundabout has been fairly well maintained over the last 18months as part of a combined effort between Network Services and Environmental Services' Local Area Task Force. There are no statistics to indicate that the foliage creates a road safety issue, therefore it is not proposaed that this be cut back further at this time. If there are any particular locations that raise concerns for cyclists with regards to foliage, please do contact me to discuss this further.
I am sure that the new road layout proposed for this location will offer cyclists greater priorities through the junction. As described above though, details of this do not exist yet.
Finally, I am aware that a speed camera is proposed for Sir Harry Lauder Road and this is due to be installed this year.
If you would like to discuss any of the above issues further, please contact me and I will direct you to the appropriate section of our the Department.
Regards
Graeme Paget
Professional Officer
Network Services - North Area
Tel : 0131 529 3718
Maureen McElroy, a local cyclist, was killed on her way to work on Monday 26th May.
One can only with insight ponder about the tragic death of Maureen, along with other tragedies that have occurred on the Harry Lauder Road. There is no doubt in my mind, all could have been avoided If the powers to be had stayed with the original design and constructed a underpass at rail level that linked Harry Lauder Road to Seafield Road with a underpass instead of the cheaper shambles that we now have with “Kings Road Roundaboutâ€Â
One can only with insight ponder about the tragic death of Maureen, along with other tragedies that have occurred on the Harry Lauder Road. There is no doubt in my mind, all could have been avoided If the powers to be had stayed with the original design and constructed a underpass at rail level that linked Harry Lauder Road to Seafield Road with a underpass instead of the cheaper shambles that we now have with “Kings Road Roundaboutâ€Â
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Lawrence Marshall
Fatal accident at King's Road roundabout
The construction of the Sir Harry Lauder Road (Portobello Bypass) very much pre-dates my time as the local councillor for Portobello but I am aware that a roundabout at King's Road was not the original intention.
There was indeed to have been an underpass of the Portobello Road alongside the railway line which would have then joined Seafield Road. There would also, though, have been a sliproad back up to Portobello High Street at the top of King's Road.
That this scheme didn't happen was largely, I understand, due to the clay soil along Baileyfield Road - to have dug the Bypass at the railway level would probably have resulted in the collapse of the houses from 2 - 23 Baileyfield Road.
It's unlikely, therefore, that this scheme would now ever be re-visited - but I do hope that the forthcoming traffic lights will enable all users of the roundabout at King's Road to get a safer and fairer transit through it.
There was indeed to have been an underpass of the Portobello Road alongside the railway line which would have then joined Seafield Road. There would also, though, have been a sliproad back up to Portobello High Street at the top of King's Road.
That this scheme didn't happen was largely, I understand, due to the clay soil along Baileyfield Road - to have dug the Bypass at the railway level would probably have resulted in the collapse of the houses from 2 - 23 Baileyfield Road.
It's unlikely, therefore, that this scheme would now ever be re-visited - but I do hope that the forthcoming traffic lights will enable all users of the roundabout at King's Road to get a safer and fairer transit through it.
Would the intoduction of Yellow lines along both sides of the High Street from Kwik-Fit to Kings Road make this congested part of the High Street safer. | am not a cyclist but can imagine this being quite frightening trying to pass parked vehicles at this busy section of road, what with buses trying to pull into their stops and the backlog of traffic from the roundabout. There are no houses or shops at this section that require parked vehicles so it should not cause much disruption.
With reference to Lawrence's posting on the original plans for Kings Road
Roudabout/Harry Lauder Road, I managed to get some information from news cuttings from the Library, as it turns out Gaving Strang was all for the underpass at Kings Road, but unfortunately it would have cost the Council an additional '5 million to shore up the foundations' due to the soft clay that was encountered on this section of the bypass.
Of course at the time it probably made more sense for them to build a roundabout and way much cheaper.
Only two residents in the street where approached by the Council regarding the purchase of their homes!!!! and this was put to them informally.
I and other residents where surprised and very interested to learn that if the original plans for the road had been implemented it would would have caused the collapse of nos. 2 - 23 Baileyfield Road!
We feel that we should now be advised where this information came from!!
Roudabout/Harry Lauder Road, I managed to get some information from news cuttings from the Library, as it turns out Gaving Strang was all for the underpass at Kings Road, but unfortunately it would have cost the Council an additional '5 million to shore up the foundations' due to the soft clay that was encountered on this section of the bypass.
Of course at the time it probably made more sense for them to build a roundabout and way much cheaper.
Only two residents in the street where approached by the Council regarding the purchase of their homes!!!! and this was put to them informally.
I and other residents where surprised and very interested to learn that if the original plans for the road had been implemented it would would have caused the collapse of nos. 2 - 23 Baileyfield Road!
We feel that we should now be advised where this information came from!!
Cairns is on othe money with this one, the parking outside Kwik Fit and the Garage is a nightmare, along with the vehicles that are parked over the High Street entrances to Scottish Power making it necessary for pedestrians to walk on the road to bypass them!!Cairns wrote:Would the intoduction of Yellow lines along both sides of the High Street from Kwik-Fit to Kings Road make this congested part of the High Street safer. | am not a cyclist but can imagine this being quite frightening trying to pass parked vehicles at this busy section of road, what with buses trying to pull into their stops and the backlog of traffic from the roundabout. There are no houses or shops at this section that require parked vehicles so it should not cause much disruption.
double yellow lines are the only answer for this area of congestion.
With reference to Lawrence's posting on the original plans for Kings Road
I am sure with good planning the probable collapse of the houses along Baileyfield Road could have been avoided. After all our Grandfathers had great success in the locus with the construction of the now demolished Power Station, complete with what at one time was the tallest chimney in Scotland, including a feeder rail branch line running under Seafield Road.
All this completed on unstable soil.
I am sure with good planning the probable collapse of the houses along Baileyfield Road could have been avoided. After all our Grandfathers had great success in the locus with the construction of the now demolished Power Station, complete with what at one time was the tallest chimney in Scotland, including a feeder rail branch line running under Seafield Road.
All this completed on unstable soil.
Hi Dave,
Re your response to Lawrence's posting pertaining to the original route of Harry Lauder Road (HLR) and Kings Road Roundabout.
I am in agreement with you regarding good planning, but there is unstable land and unstable land, the Old Power Station was a large construction, but I am not so sure it was built on unconsolidated landfill or impervious/boulder clay foundation.
However, whatever happens to the Residential Housing in the immediate area, the surrounding road system is badly designed and downright dangerous, for pedestrians/cyclists.
Re your response to Lawrence's posting pertaining to the original route of Harry Lauder Road (HLR) and Kings Road Roundabout.
I am in agreement with you regarding good planning, but there is unstable land and unstable land, the Old Power Station was a large construction, but I am not so sure it was built on unconsolidated landfill or impervious/boulder clay foundation.
However, whatever happens to the Residential Housing in the immediate area, the surrounding road system is badly designed and downright dangerous, for pedestrians/cyclists.
Hi Gemini,
Glad someone agrees with me; afraid planning of Harry lauder Road as the rest of the by-pass was all implemented as cheaply as possible and no consideration given to future increase of volume of traffic.
As anyone who has the misfortune to travel via Harry lauder Road and along the City bypass will know, the By-pass was outdated even before its completion!
Re the building of the Power Station: I’m not sure but I was always given to believe that it was erected on some kind of Raft, probably concrete.
Glad someone agrees with me; afraid planning of Harry lauder Road as the rest of the by-pass was all implemented as cheaply as possible and no consideration given to future increase of volume of traffic.
As anyone who has the misfortune to travel via Harry lauder Road and along the City bypass will know, the By-pass was outdated even before its completion!
Re the building of the Power Station: I’m not sure but I was always given to believe that it was erected on some kind of Raft, probably concrete.
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Lawrence Marshall
Dear All,
I thought that you might be interested in the two e-mails below from Graeme Paget of the Council's Department of City Development. The first was sent on 13th June 2003.
Councillor Lawrence Marshall
Portobello
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I can offer the following information on these matters :-
This Department's Cycle Team will be reviewing the signing for the cycle route on Fishwives Causeway and will instagate improvements where necessary.
The re-design of the road junction (which may or may nor include the removal of the roundabout) will be carried out as part of a 3 year programme for The Quality Bus Corridor Project. There are no detailed designs available as yet since the project only got underway in April 2003. I believe however, that this junction may be one of the first to be constructed within the overall project.
The vegetation on the roundabout has been fairly well maintained over the last 18months as part of a combined effort between Network Services and Environmental Services' Local Area Task Force. There are no statistics to indicate that the foliage creates a road safety issue, therefore it is not proposaed that this be cut back further at this time. If there are any particular locations that raise concerns for cyclists with regards to foliage, please do contact me to discuss this further.
I am sure that the new road layout proposed for this location will offer cyclists greater priorities through the junction. As described above though, details of this do not exist yet.
Finally, I am aware that a speed camera is proposed for Sir Harry Lauder Road and this is due to be installed this year.
If you would like to discuss any of the above issues further, please contact me and I will direct you to the appropriate section of our the Department.
Regards
Graeme Paget
Professional Officer
Network Services - North Area
... and the following of the 8th of July 2003:
Lawrence
I refer to you phone call earlier today regarding the above. Having attended the fatal accident enquiry held on 13 June 2003, I can inform you that the The City of Edinburgh Council are to investigate the possibility of :-
1. The introduction of spiral markings on the roundabout in conjunction with more destination names to be painted on the road surface.
2. Introduction of "Get in Lane For " Signs on the approach to the roundabout.
3. Look at the alternative route, already in place for pedal cyclists, (High Street, Fishwives Causeway) to see if it is still suitable for cyclists in relation to ligthing and personal safety.
Plans are presently being drawn up by CEC for the introduction of a Quality Bus Corridor in the area which may see the roundabout being removed and the junction being redesigned with the introduction of traffic signals.
I hope this is of assistance.
Regards
Graeme Paget
Professional Officer
City Development Department
Network Services - North
I thought that you might be interested in the two e-mails below from Graeme Paget of the Council's Department of City Development. The first was sent on 13th June 2003.
Councillor Lawrence Marshall
Portobello
* * * * *
I can offer the following information on these matters :-
This Department's Cycle Team will be reviewing the signing for the cycle route on Fishwives Causeway and will instagate improvements where necessary.
The re-design of the road junction (which may or may nor include the removal of the roundabout) will be carried out as part of a 3 year programme for The Quality Bus Corridor Project. There are no detailed designs available as yet since the project only got underway in April 2003. I believe however, that this junction may be one of the first to be constructed within the overall project.
The vegetation on the roundabout has been fairly well maintained over the last 18months as part of a combined effort between Network Services and Environmental Services' Local Area Task Force. There are no statistics to indicate that the foliage creates a road safety issue, therefore it is not proposaed that this be cut back further at this time. If there are any particular locations that raise concerns for cyclists with regards to foliage, please do contact me to discuss this further.
I am sure that the new road layout proposed for this location will offer cyclists greater priorities through the junction. As described above though, details of this do not exist yet.
Finally, I am aware that a speed camera is proposed for Sir Harry Lauder Road and this is due to be installed this year.
If you would like to discuss any of the above issues further, please contact me and I will direct you to the appropriate section of our the Department.
Regards
Graeme Paget
Professional Officer
Network Services - North Area
... and the following of the 8th of July 2003:
Lawrence
I refer to you phone call earlier today regarding the above. Having attended the fatal accident enquiry held on 13 June 2003, I can inform you that the The City of Edinburgh Council are to investigate the possibility of :-
1. The introduction of spiral markings on the roundabout in conjunction with more destination names to be painted on the road surface.
2. Introduction of "Get in Lane For " Signs on the approach to the roundabout.
3. Look at the alternative route, already in place for pedal cyclists, (High Street, Fishwives Causeway) to see if it is still suitable for cyclists in relation to ligthing and personal safety.
Plans are presently being drawn up by CEC for the introduction of a Quality Bus Corridor in the area which may see the roundabout being removed and the junction being redesigned with the introduction of traffic signals.
I hope this is of assistance.
Regards
Graeme Paget
Professional Officer
City Development Department
Network Services - North
Just wondering when the barrier at King's Road Roundabout will be fixed, must be a couple of weeks now since something crashed through it.
The temporary barrier has also broken off and is lying mangled on the road.
Should any of the Portobello Reps!!! be reading this perhaps they can arrange with their contacts in the council to have it repaired asap, as it is a safety matter of the utmost urgency!!
The temporary barrier has also broken off and is lying mangled on the road.
Should any of the Portobello Reps!!! be reading this perhaps they can arrange with their contacts in the council to have it repaired asap, as it is a safety matter of the utmost urgency!!