Funpark - Licensed Snooker Club

PortyConvert · Post by **PortyConvert** » 20 Feb 2006, 22:16

"Turn first floor of the building into a private licensed snooker club and the demolition of a portion of the building"

Got the notification through the post today - i'll be gutted if this goes ahead - we live right across from the Funpark. Its bad enough just now with the engine revving / car stereos & people noise just now.... add booze into the mix and i fear the worst.....

Robin! · Post by **Robin!** » 21 Feb 2006, 22:27

Surely a private snooker club would have better clientel?

Lizzie · Post by **Lizzie** » 01 Mar 2006, 18:35

PortyConvert wrote:"Turn first floor of the building into a private licensed snooker club and the demolition of a portion of the building"

Got the notification through the post today - i'll be gutted if this goes ahead - we live right across from the Funpark. Its bad enough just now with the engine revving / car stereos & people noise just now.... add booze into the mix and i fear the worst.....

Hello PC I've only just noticed this thread today.
I too live very close to the FunPark but we never received any notification - so this is news to us - as you say the noise is bad enough already.
I do remember the FunPark applied for a licence a few years ago but it was refused - thank goodness! - can you give us any further details on this proposed licensed snooker club?

Post by **wangi** » 01 Mar 2006, 18:49

The application (06/00895/FUL) has a status of "Application Invalid On Receipt", so it looks like someone didn't dot their i's...

Your application was assessed as deficient on 22 February 2006.

A deficient application is one where the information submitted has not met the requirements necessary to register an application, as stipulated in the Town and Country Planning (General Development Procedure) (Scotland) Order 1992.

In this case, the application was determined to be deficient in the following respect(s):

Fee deficient - 'Bad neighbour' development fee of Â£65.00 required.

Further information required - Please colour all alterations on the enclosed plans (2 sets returned).

You should note that your application cannot be registered until all the necessary additional information, forms and signatures have been submitted, and assessed as being correct. In the interest of avoiding further delay in registering your application please submit all necessary corrected forms/information within 14 days of the date of this letter.

http://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/ ... GPZEWF1000

Lizzie · Post by **Lizzie** » 01 Mar 2006, 19:52

Thank you for your help Wangi - you were certainly quick of the mark

It sounds like reasonably good news, for the moment, to all of us who live along here beside the Funpark
- will check it out

PortyConvert · Post by **PortyConvert** » 14 Mar 2006, 20:18

Lizzie wrote:Thank you for your help Wangi - you were certainly quick of the mark
It sounds like reasonably good news, for the moment, to all of us who live along here beside the Funpark
- will check it out

Lizzie - i'm no good at reading the plans and can't really see how this benefits people in the area - maybe you could enlighten me?

From what i can tell - there will be a large pool & bar area upstairs.... and a balcony for people to sit out and drink / smoke.
Again - i'm not too sure about the plans, but my interpretation is that they will be shortening the building at the East side (where some cars park just now, no doubt to sell the land for development in the future) - this will mean cars all parking along Bridge Street, and no doubt imposing more on private parking.
The balcony combined with booze & the soon to be implemented smoking rules will no doubt be extremely loud - and will this mean an extension to their 11pm (ish) closing time...

Anyway - don't want to seem all doom & gloom, hopefully i'm missing something on the plans - but i can't help but be very worried about the area around me. I can't think of any time where introducing a booze license into an area has helped the residents around....

Poppy · Post by **Poppy** » 14 Mar 2006, 22:45

PC asked

Lizzie - i'm no good at reading the plans and can't really see how this benefits people in the area - maybe you could enlighten me?

PC, I'm taking it upon myself to answer for Lizzie [I know her well!]. What the good news was was that the application had been rejectedon a technicality [although they can easily resubmit]. Lizzie definitely would not be happy about what's proposed!

PortyConvert · Post by **PortyConvert** » 14 Mar 2006, 22:57

Ahhhh - ok Poppy - thanks for that ... now that i see the date of her posts - this makes more sense.

Well - since the initial rejection they have resubmitted extensive plans (use Wangi's link and go to "Associated Documents" to see)

Poppy · Post by **Poppy** » 17 Apr 2006, 16:30

From tonight's EN

LATEST ON SNOOKER CLUB and FLATS

Bob Jefferson · Post by **Bob Jefferson** » 17 Apr 2006, 19:59

Another Porty scoop from the lovely Jane Bradley in today's EN:

Is Portobello promenade going to pot?

Epykat · Post by **Epykat** » 17 Apr 2006, 20:02

Does Jane Bradley ever report on other areas ?

Bob Jefferson · Post by **Bob Jefferson** » 17 Apr 2006, 20:10

Of course she does.

Didn't she do a story on Joppa once?

Sandra · Post by **Sandra** » 17 Apr 2006, 20:30

Saw that. Snooker Hall, what about a nice cafe/restaurant/bar? With views out to the beach/sea - would go down a storm I would think. The bottom bit at the new flats at bath street - obviously the developers/owners think differently, but that would be a total huge seller having a really nice coffee/lunch stop with a bit for dog walkers to have their coffee and their pooches to have some water. A definite hit I reckon.

(just being a regular walker/dog walker in that area - a definite money maker) for some entrepreneur who comes along.

promqueen · Post by **promqueen** » 17 Apr 2006, 21:11

Think the Prom could do with a lot more TLC... the Indoor Bowling centre already has a great balcony that could be used as a cafe/ bar terrace, but I've never seen it used as such . The Funpark could stay as it is with, again, the addition of a cafe/ bar, without the snooker hall. The wee comment about ' drinking Pimms' was maybe a bit off the mark !!

Generally, things could do with sprucing up and, as one person said, the re- introduction of ice cream parlours etc would make everything a bit more family orientated.
Although probably not officially the entertainment end of the Prom, the 'Cooncil 'could do with having a look at the fencing at the Dog and Cat Home end of Seafield Road - there are gaps and some woefully inadequate strands of wire supposedly stopping folks from falling to their doom on the chunky rocks and slabs below. Further along, nearer Bath St., there are gaps in the old iron railings.
Porty could and should be lovely - Rothesay is of a similiar vintage, and maintains a quaint sense of faded grandeur. I think a lot more could be made of our Victorian Heritage and popularity. On that note ....
Anyone heard any more about the proposed pier ?

Dave Connelly · Post by **Dave Connelly** » 17 Apr 2006, 21:16

Architect for the site, George Morrison, said he believed the club would be an asset to the area.

He said: "The balcony will be a nice area, where people can sit and drink their Pims or whatever and enjoy the view of the estuary. There just isn't the need any more for such a big amusement arcade building."

I've been in a few snooker clubs in my time and have never seen anyone drinking Pims.

promqueen · Post by **promqueen** » 17 Apr 2006, 21:23

That's what I meant, Dave !!!I've been in LOADS of bars, and am yet to see it on the menu !!

Post by **wangi** » 17 Apr 2006, 21:36

promqueen wrote:the 'Cooncil 'could do with having a look at the fencing at the Dog and Cat Home end of Seafield Road - there are gaps and some woefully inadequate strands of wire supposedly stopping folks from falling to their doom on the chunky rocks and slabs below. Further along, nearer Bath St., there are gaps in the old iron railings.

I think you need another look

Over the past month the railings on the west end of the Prom have been replaced.

L/

Epykat · Post by **Epykat** » 17 Apr 2006, 21:36

I thought the Pimms quote was funny too. Maybe it was a typo and they meant to put PiNTs?

Sandra · Post by **Sandra** » 17 Apr 2006, 22:33

promqueen wrote:The wee comment about ' drinking Pimms' was

I laughed out loud

Sandra · Post by **Sandra** » 17 Apr 2006, 22:36

promqueen wrote:Porty could and should be lovely - Rothesay is of a similiar vintage, and maintains a quaint sense of faded grandeur.

ooooohhhhhhh I wouldn't have put Rothesay in the same sentence as Portobello

no contest I'd say

(in portobello's favour!)

Poppy · Post by **Poppy** » 18 Apr 2006, 10:50

Mods, there is a similar thread to this on Portobello Matters forum - "Funpark ....".

PortyConvert · Post by **PortyConvert** » 18 Apr 2006, 13:06

Epykat wrote:I thought the Pimms quote was funny too. Maybe it was a typo and they meant to put PiNTs?

Couldn't believe it when i read that!!

I got a PM on friday from J.B. asking me for comment - but i didn't check my messages until yesterday so couldn't add my comments

Rather than "enjoying Pimms" i find it more likely that the balcony will provide an outlet for the clientelle to chuck their fag butts and on some occassions their drinks onto the promenade...

I don't expect for one minute that this venue would be frequented by people wearing bow ties and waistcoats.....

PortyConvert · Post by **PortyConvert** » 18 Apr 2006, 13:11

Thanks for the link Poppy ... i missed out on my chance to comment on this story ... but the local resident quoted said pretty much what i would have.

I'm all for building the flats - but still very worried about having a bar a few metres from my house

Bob Jefferson · Post by **Bob Jefferson** » 18 Apr 2006, 13:33

Poppy wrote:Mods, there is a similar thread to this on Portobello Matters forum - "Funpark ....".

Thanks Poppy. Threads now merged.

Lizzie · Post by **Lizzie** » 18 Apr 2006, 18:57

promqueen wrote:Think the Prom could do with a lot more TLC... the Indoor Bowling centre already has a great balcony that could be used as a cafe/ bar terrace, but I've never seen it used as such

The Indoor Bowling Centre actually has a cafe/bar already which is quite good Promqueen I visit there for lunch quite regularly and have even had Sunday morning breakfast on the balcony a few times, its very nice.

promqueen · Post by **promqueen** » 16 May 2006, 21:43

Will check it out, Lizzie ! Knew there was a cafe but didn't realise it was a bar, too!
Do they do Pimms ??

Davie Bhoy · Post by **Davie Bhoy** » 30 May 2006, 12:04

Fantastic news that their is to be a bar and snooker club. About time the prom completrly rejuvenated itself!! And at last a place for the youths to hang out. i am fed up listening to people going on about kids hanging about, playing music etc... What else are they supposed to do? i was a kid once, as no doubt most of you were too - please get over yourselves and let Porty be cool once more...

Porty born and bred!

PortyConvert · Post by **PortyConvert** » 30 May 2006, 19:56

I find "coolness" not to be high on my list of priorities when we are talking about an increase in distruption to local residents from drink fuelled reprobates & ultimately the negative financial impact on my house price.

Davie Bhoy · Post by **Davie Bhoy** » 31 May 2006, 14:00

Interesting...

Maria · Post by **Maria** » 26 Sep 2006, 09:46

Last night's meeting of the Community Council opened with an interesting presentation by The Morrison Partnership, the architects responsible for drawing up an outline proposal for development of the current Amusements Arcade and the old Ghost Train site.

The owner of the site has agreed to a council request to give up a 2 metre wide strip along the entire frontage of the site, in order that the Prom be widened at this point.

The proposal is for a tall (5 storey) building directly on the Prom. The building is stepped down at the sides, (which would curve round away from the Prom), to a two storey one.

There would be underground parking for residents, which would have the added advantage of raising the level of the first floor flats to offer some privacy for residents.

The building would have roof gardens, with further landscaping on the south side (the side looking towards the High Street). The developers suggest creating a 'piazza' like area around the kilns, which would be hard landscaped and contain a curved seating area where the third kiln used to be.

The response to the proposal was generally favourable though there were concerns voiced that the building would be another 'Miami style' new build.

moss · Post by **moss** » 09 Nov 2006, 23:08

Hi
This is my first blog from a fairly new Porty resident. Just got some info from The Kilns Neighbourhood watch group yesterday. Apparently there is a six storey block of flats proposed for the Fun Park Site at the bottom of Bridge Street/Pipe Street. The plans look hideous-like a multi storey car park. The implications are massive-looks like they will have to build a boardwalk as it takes up some of the prom, will block a lot of light from some of my elderly neighbours homes, has huge traffic implications, could de-stabilise the one remaining pottery kiln. I hear previous Porty folk managed to block the building if a large supermarket. Think we need to object strongly to this building. Porty seems under attack from developers what with the park as well, lets not be swallowed up by new builds.

Moss

Post by **wangi** » 10 Nov 2006, 00:11

So folk can make an informed response can you let us know the planning reference number which should be on any proposals you have?

Using this others can look it up on http://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/

Thanks/L

Maria · Post by **Maria** » 10 Nov 2006, 08:30

moss wrote: looks like they will have to build a boardwalk as it takes up some of the prom,

Welcome to the site Moss. I'd just like to correct you on this point, as :

Marya wrote:The owner of the site has agreed to a council request to give up a 2 metre wide strip along the entire frontage of the site, in order that the Prom be widened at this point.

PortyConvert · Post by **PortyConvert** » 10 Nov 2006, 22:27

wangi wrote:So folk can make an informed response can you let us know the planning reference number which should be on any proposals you have?

Using this others can look it up on http://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/

Thanks/L

I'd be grateful if somebody posted the reference... i live nearby and would take an interest in the proposal (first thoughts are that its sounds hideous!)

Carol · Post by **Carol** » 10 Nov 2006, 23:16

Search on Portal .... 21 Pipe Lane
Council Ref: 06/04681/OUT
Online Ref: Not Available

Click into fourth on list and then into details if link below is not active

http://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/ ... /04681/OUT

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