Identities

General discussion - "gossip and tittle tattle"
Locked
User avatar
Bob Jefferson
Posts: 6212
Joined: 11 Dec 2004, 21:16
Location: Planet Porty
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Bob Jefferson » 11 Jun 2012, 23:03

Hi Claire, we're waiting for wangi, sorry Lee Kindness, to confirm but I think there could be technical problems with that. Do you have another name or are you just Claire?

seashell
Posts: 491
Joined: 01 Feb 2005, 20:41

Re: Identities

Post by seashell » 11 Jun 2012, 23:10

I'm more comfortable just using Claire, Bob - from a safety point of view, given that anyone can read this board. I've got nothing to hide - but I don't use my surname on *any* public forum - and I think you'll find that's generally agreed to be best practice. This might be a community forum, but it *is* public and available to anyone web-user, which is why people are encouraged not to reveal their actual identities online.
There's a lot of strange people out there - and this is meant in a very general sense, and is most definitely NOT directed at any person engaged in debate.
So I would caution other posters not to disclose their full details, as a basic security precaution.

User avatar
Bob Jefferson
Posts: 6212
Joined: 11 Dec 2004, 21:16
Location: Planet Porty
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Bob Jefferson » 11 Jun 2012, 23:16

That's OK, Claire is a good start. So, I wonder if Lashylass feels ready to follow suit and reveal his/her first name?

gillian dunn
Posts: 3
Joined: 05 Dec 2011, 21:53

Re: Identities

Post by gillian dunn » 11 Jun 2012, 23:51

Wonder if Reg will join in. What do you think Bob? you're the only person who seems to know him.

User avatar
Bob Jefferson
Posts: 6212
Joined: 11 Dec 2004, 21:16
Location: Planet Porty
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Bob Jefferson » 11 Jun 2012, 23:57

I'd be delighted if Reg was willing to divulge his real name, if only so that you would have to admit that you were wrong all along.

User avatar
Bob Jefferson
Posts: 6212
Joined: 11 Dec 2004, 21:16
Location: Planet Porty
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Bob Jefferson » 11 Jun 2012, 23:59

+porty.png
+porty.png (8.2 KiB) Viewed 8395 times

User avatar
Puerto bella
Posts: 762
Joined: 07 Jul 2007, 22:19
Location: Planet Zog

Re: Identities

Post by Puerto bella » 12 Jun 2012, 07:39

Given that anyone can find out all of your details on the web anyhow - its pointless hiding last names in my view.

User avatar
Bob Jefferson
Posts: 6212
Joined: 11 Dec 2004, 21:16
Location: Planet Porty
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Bob Jefferson » 12 Jun 2012, 07:49

Some people do have genuine fears about the internet. Many of these are groundless or exaggerated but I can imagine one or two situations where you might not want to show up on a search. Claire has at least met us halfway and we have to respect her reasons for not divulging her surname. Lashylass, on the other hand, seems determined to remain anonymous. I wonder why?

User avatar
Lashylass
Posts: 54
Joined: 12 Jan 2012, 18:33

Re: Identities

Post by Lashylass » 12 Jun 2012, 09:01

Yes Bob some people do have fears about personal details being wrongly used. You recently cooked up a little site on which you delighted in sharing some people' personal details, including salaries, jobs etc. That's not nice. I will not be divulging my details.

User avatar
Porty
Posts: 8514
Joined: 08 Jun 2004, 14:30
Location: Organic Market

Re: Identities

Post by Porty » 12 Jun 2012, 10:01

This reminds me of a recent experience I had at the gym. Some people put a petition together to request they changed the reservation system to allow telephone booking, because it suited them better. I was dead against it, as it was a fundamental change to the basis on which I joined.

Same goes for TP. I think it would be better if there was total transparency BUT many people joined and participated on the basis they could remain anonymous. As long as they contribute civily and within the rules they ought to be allowed to remain anonymous.
.....ambition makes you look pretty ugly

User avatar
Bob Jefferson
Posts: 6212
Joined: 11 Dec 2004, 21:16
Location: Planet Porty
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Bob Jefferson » 12 Jun 2012, 10:14

Lashylass wrote:Yes Bob some people do have fears about personal details being wrongly used. You recently cooked up a little site on which you delighted in sharing some people' personal details, including salaries, jobs etc. That's not nice. I will not be divulging my details.
Really? Which site would that be?

User avatar
Porty
Posts: 8514
Joined: 08 Jun 2004, 14:30
Location: Organic Market

Re: Identities

Post by Porty » 12 Jun 2012, 10:15

Epykat wrote:
Porty wrote:Epykat - if you were ever called a bullshitting liar I didn't see it

I was lying..... :roll:

I doubt it, but you may be mistaken, I don't believe you have been called vacuous or a liar, so it may be that you are aggrieved and/or hurt by something that hasn't occurred. I would ask you again to direct me to where those slurs manifested but I'm fairly sure I'd be wasting my time. You are not one for conceding you may be incorrect or mistaken, regardless of what evidence is put to you.
.....ambition makes you look pretty ugly

User avatar
Porty
Posts: 8514
Joined: 08 Jun 2004, 14:30
Location: Organic Market

Re: Identities

Post by Porty » 12 Jun 2012, 10:24

Bob Jefferson wrote:
Lashylass wrote:Yes Bob some people do have fears about personal details being wrongly used. You recently cooked up a little site on which you delighted in sharing some people' personal details, including salaries, jobs etc. That's not nice. I will not be divulging my details.
Really? Which site would that be?
Ignore it Bob. It just fabricates shit and won't engage on a factual basis.
.....ambition makes you look pretty ugly

User avatar
Bob Jefferson
Posts: 6212
Joined: 11 Dec 2004, 21:16
Location: Planet Porty
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Bob Jefferson » 12 Jun 2012, 10:25

OK, let's sort this one out. It's quite simple to do a search on the phrase 'vacuous liar' and it transpires that the only person who has used it is....Epykat.

What I think Avril may be referring to is this post by Seanie from July last year, which obviously needs to be read in context:
Fine. But is there any reason you should be taken seriously? If you're just going to say things without justification, that's fairly vacuous.

User avatar
Epykat
Posts: 3915
Joined: 04 Dec 2003, 22:35
Location: Portobello, Edinburgh
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Epykat » 12 Jun 2012, 10:48

Epykat wrote:........ I have been called, on numerous occasions, on this forum, a bullshitting liar and on one occasion 'vacuous'.You can look it up if you like .

Like I said.....
Enough of your nonsense - get back to the Play Pen!

User avatar
Bob Jefferson
Posts: 6212
Joined: 11 Dec 2004, 21:16
Location: Planet Porty
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Bob Jefferson » 12 Jun 2012, 10:55

Let's stick to the facts. No-one on this forum has ever used the phrases "vacuous liar" or "bullshitting liar" except you or people quoting you. Again, it's easy enough to search these phrases.

User avatar
Epykat
Posts: 3915
Joined: 04 Dec 2003, 22:35
Location: Portobello, Edinburgh
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Epykat » 12 Jun 2012, 10:59

Vast apologies. My mistake.
Enough of your nonsense - get back to the Play Pen!

User avatar
Bob Jefferson
Posts: 6212
Joined: 11 Dec 2004, 21:16
Location: Planet Porty
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Bob Jefferson » 12 Jun 2012, 11:07

On the other hand, you did say this:
You're bullshitting. Honestly Sean, you talk such a lot of freaking tosh, I just can't keep up.


And maybe we've all said a few things we regret or that could have been phrased better. And maybe a few things have been blown out of proportion? So let's draw a line. But there is no room on this forum, as far as I'm concerned, for trolls like Lashylass and again I'm calling for an end to anonymity as a first step towards creating a more civilised atmosphere in which we can debate in a respectful manner some of the very important local issues that affect all of us.

User avatar
Pal of Porty
Posts: 2136
Joined: 30 Sep 2004, 13:41
Location: Old Folks Home
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Pal of Porty » 12 Jun 2012, 11:07

Bob Jefferson wrote:..Those who chose to remain anonymous clearly have something to hide.
No I don't. 8)
Justice delayed is justice denied.

User avatar
Pal of Porty
Posts: 2136
Joined: 30 Sep 2004, 13:41
Location: Old Folks Home
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Pal of Porty » 12 Jun 2012, 11:09

Bob Jefferson wrote:
+porty.png
The first thing I saw in this logo was the word Poo! 8)
Justice delayed is justice denied.

User avatar
Bob Jefferson
Posts: 6212
Joined: 11 Dec 2004, 21:16
Location: Planet Porty
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Bob Jefferson » 12 Jun 2012, 11:10

Right, I'm outing you for starters. If you don't know, Pal of Porty is Dave Davidson. He is, as his name implies, a pal of Porty, otherwise known as Stevie McIntyre. There used to be a 'Pal of Pal of Porty' but I don't know what happened to him. Perhaps he is the sleeping partner.

User avatar
Bob Jefferson
Posts: 6212
Joined: 11 Dec 2004, 21:16
Location: Planet Porty
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Bob Jefferson » 12 Jun 2012, 11:12

Pal of Porty wrote:
Bob Jefferson wrote:
+porty.png
The first thing I saw in this logo was the word Poo! 8)
Well what does that say?

User avatar
Epykat
Posts: 3915
Joined: 04 Dec 2003, 22:35
Location: Portobello, Edinburgh
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Epykat » 12 Jun 2012, 11:12

Bob Jefferson wrote:On the other hand, you did say this:
You're bullshitting. Honestly Sean, you talk such a lot of freaking tosh, I just can't keep up.



Absolutely and I meant every word. As did he.
Enough of your nonsense - get back to the Play Pen!

User avatar
Bob Jefferson
Posts: 6212
Joined: 11 Dec 2004, 21:16
Location: Planet Porty
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Bob Jefferson » 12 Jun 2012, 11:21

So, in the rough and tumble of the internet you had a difference of opinion with someone and you gave as good as you got? And now it's another day.

User avatar
Porty
Posts: 8514
Joined: 08 Jun 2004, 14:30
Location: Organic Market

Re: Identities

Post by Porty » 12 Jun 2012, 11:28

Epykat wrote:Vast apologies. My mistake.
What are you aplologising for and to whom is the apology directed at?
.....ambition makes you look pretty ugly

User avatar
Epykat
Posts: 3915
Joined: 04 Dec 2003, 22:35
Location: Portobello, Edinburgh
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Epykat » 12 Jun 2012, 11:35

Porty wrote:
Epykat wrote:Vast apologies. My mistake.
What are you aplologising for and to whom is the apology directed at?
To everyone who now knows I'm the bullshitting liar you know me to be.
Enough of your nonsense - get back to the Play Pen!

User avatar
Porty
Posts: 8514
Joined: 08 Jun 2004, 14:30
Location: Organic Market

Re: Identities

Post by Porty » 12 Jun 2012, 11:38

There's not a molecule of me that thinks or believes you are a bullshitting liar. So, its no apology at all. A complete lack of grace is what it is.
.....ambition makes you look pretty ugly

User avatar
Porty
Posts: 8514
Joined: 08 Jun 2004, 14:30
Location: Organic Market

Re: Identities

Post by Porty » 12 Jun 2012, 11:40

Bob Jefferson wrote:Right, I'm outing you for starters. If you don't know, Pal of Porty is Dave Davidson. He is, as his name implies, a pal of Porty, otherwise known as Stevie McIntyre. There used to be a 'Pal of Pal of Porty' but I don't know what happened to him. Perhaps he is the sleeping partner.
I think that may have been Donny McIntyre (no relation) or Eddie Henderson senior.
.....ambition makes you look pretty ugly

User avatar
Pal of Porty
Posts: 2136
Joined: 30 Sep 2004, 13:41
Location: Old Folks Home
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Pal of Porty » 12 Jun 2012, 13:18

Bob Jefferson wrote:Right, I'm outing you for starters. If you don't know, Pal of Porty is Dave Davidson. He is, as his name implies, a pal of Porty, otherwise known as Stevie McIntyre. There used to be a 'Pal of Pal of Porty' but I don't know what happened to him. Perhaps he is the sleeping partner.
Eh...Dont' you think it should be up to me (or the individual concerned) to out themselves? 8)
Justice delayed is justice denied.

User avatar
Bob Jefferson
Posts: 6212
Joined: 11 Dec 2004, 21:16
Location: Planet Porty
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Bob Jefferson » 12 Jun 2012, 13:21

I thought you had already outed yourself some time ago. Anyway, everyone knows who you are.

regent
Posts: 91
Joined: 08 Apr 2011, 10:42

Re: Identities

Post by regent » 12 Jun 2012, 14:12

Now!
who said that?

regent
Posts: 91
Joined: 08 Apr 2011, 10:42

Re: Identities

Post by regent » 12 Jun 2012, 14:13

I agree with bob. There would be a much better atmosphere if everyone posted with their real identity.
who said that?

User avatar
rathbone
Posts: 1989
Joined: 18 Aug 2004, 18:45
Location: somewhere else

Re: Identities

Post by rathbone » 12 Jun 2012, 14:17

Bob Jefferson wrote:Anyway, everyone knows who you are.
I didn't for one and I've been on this forum for the past eight years.

Nice to know you POP, always glad to meet another Dave.

Just sorry that you were outed in this way. You're absolutely right. It should have been your decision, not one made for you, especially when that action is based on an assumption and a totally spurious justification. (Bob and I know each other so I feel I can pick him up on things like this without being accused of bullying :wink: )
I have nothing to say and I'm going to say it.

User avatar
Bob Jefferson
Posts: 6212
Joined: 11 Dec 2004, 21:16
Location: Planet Porty
Contact:

Re: Identities

Post by Bob Jefferson » 12 Jun 2012, 14:24

Yeah, sorry Dave.

User avatar
Puerto bella
Posts: 762
Joined: 07 Jul 2007, 22:19
Location: Planet Zog

Re: Identities

Post by Puerto bella » 12 Jun 2012, 15:11

League of Gentlemen had a sketch when the circus came to town and he called them all Dave!

Locked